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re: Fauci: I knew we weren't on the same page, but this is nuts....
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:46 pm to GRTiger
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:46 pm to GRTiger
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I'm pretty sure you're the only one stipulating that all the detailed reviews written on rotten tomatoes were actually made up, so I'm not sure why you are arguing based on everyone else stipulating that.
I'm not saying that
I'm saying that the audience score that people are basing the divide on is bullshite because this doc is being review bombed by people who haven't seen the doc.
Which makes me ask again the question you keep avoiding: how many of those audience reviews do you think are legitimate and from people who actually watched the doc?
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 12:49 pm
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Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its purely hero worship.
Oh, how the turntables.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:48 pm to Displaced
It's at 2%. I'm not sure how they calculate the score, but give your guess on what the score would be if you were able to pick out every fake review, considering how likely it is that there is not one positive audience review based on that score.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:50 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Galactic Inquisitor
Have you downloaded your new firmware update yet?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:50 pm to GRTiger
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It's at 2%. I'm not sure how they calculate the score, but give your guess on what the score would be if you were able to pick out every fake review, considering how likely it is that there is not one positive audience review based on that score.
You act like the fake conservative incels on the far right don't have a well-established history of review bombing films that they haven't seen.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:51 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Have you downloaded your new firmware update yet?
Good. Good. Let the Fauci Derangement Syndrome flow through you.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:51 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Well said, friend. These bigots need to mask up and watch this documentary.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:53 pm to GRTiger
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I'm not sure how they calculate the score,
It's binary positive or negative.
The total % is based on %positive vs %negative.
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but give your guess on what the score would be if you were able to pick out every fake review,
This is irrelevant and no possible way of knowing, but just for fun and considering woke bump usually covers 15-30% on RT for other work movies, I'll take the high end and guess 30% critics bump.
So barely fresh at 61% if critic score is 91%.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:53 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
What do you think the true score would be if we only looked at the ones written by people who have seen it?
How much did you love the film, btw?
How much did you love the film, btw?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 1:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Correct.
Its purely hero worship.
agreed. just look at the reviews:
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Fauci is a refreshing figure and a standard-bearer for the truth.
LOL a standard-bearer for the truth?? no agenda there.
every lib in here pretending the difference in scores is anything but political would be turning up the emo and cutting themselves if Trump was deified as a "standard-bearer for the truth" in any publication. that reviewer would be canceled and drug through the streets.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 1:23 pm to GRTiger
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As surprising as it may be to many here, most people don't like the guy. Dismissing these scores as trolling does absolutely nothing to change that.
I understand that a large group in our population doesn’t like Fauci. There is a constant stream of right wing anti-Fauci propaganda. The audience score is being manipulated by people posting negative comments about Fauci, not objective reviews of the movie. That’s trolling.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 1:25 pm to Displaced
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This is irrelevant and no possible way of knowing
Interesting
You're arguing that the score is false because of the troll reviews. It seems very relevant to question where it would be without the troll reviews. You were a fan of speculating earlier.
You said that you guessed 15% of the reviews were legit. At 500 reviews (it says 500+ but not a specific number), that gives us 75 legit audience reviews. With 33/36 positive critic reviews added, to get to 61% overall positive, you'd need 36 of those 75 reviews to be positive.
However, if those 36 reviews are already included among the 425 fake ones, that would still give you a rating of 7.2%. That's over 3.5x where it is right now.
2% positive out of 500 reviews gives us 10 positive reviews. So 43 with the critics. At those numbers, you'd have to argue that only 34 of the 500 are legit. Or if you are more confident of that 15% number, you'd be looking at closer to 39% overall score, which is inclusive of the very credible critic score. Around 13% without those added.
Eta
This is all ignoring the possibility that some of the positive reviews are simply counter trolls who didn't watch but love all things Fauci.
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 10/15/21 at 1:48 pm to GRTiger
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However, if those 36 reviews are already included among the 425 fake ones, that would still give you a rating of 7.2%. That's over 3.5x where it is right now.
in a game where everything is speculation (and I'm the only one guessing because you're afraid to for some reason) and my guess (by you cherry picking numbers when I said 10-15%) is only off by 5%, I'd say I'm doing pretty fricking well. I'm still waiting on you to give me your guess as to how many of those reviews (positive and negative) you think are legit and by people who actually watched the movie.
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Or if you are more confident of that 15% number, you'd be looking at closer to 39% overall score,
It entirely may well be, we will never know.
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This is all ignoring the possibility that some of the positive reviews are simply counter trolls who didn't watch but love all things Fauci.
I have no doubt that this is taking place. It just doesn't have the fervor that the bombers have.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 1:54 pm to Displaced
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and I'm the only one guessing because you're afraid to for some reason
You're the one who swears these "fake" reviews in no way reflect the reality of reviews.
Its not his job to support your theory.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 1:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You're the one who swears these "fake" reviews in no way reflect the reality of reviews.
I answered your question, you won't answer the same.
Are you assuming all the reviews are real and by people who watched the doc?
If not, how many would you guess?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 2:00 pm to member12
The youtube trailer has 7.9k upvotes and 117k downvotes. 
Posted on 10/15/21 at 2:08 pm to Displaced
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and I'm the only one guessing because you're afraid to for some reason
You're the only one whose point relies on speculative data. My point of Fauci being hated and the film coming out now being a terrible idea is clearly evident without the need to throw out totally arbitrary numbers to try and prove it.
If it makes you feel better, I'd guess there at least 100 legit negative reviews out of ~500. I'd guess maybe 70% of the positive audience scores are legit (so ~7 out of ~10).
There are a lot of written reviews that go much more into it than you would expect from a drive by troll rating. And not many that straight up say they didn't watch it like plenty of silly troll reviewers end up doing.
It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack, but so far this is the only positive (I assume it counts being 4/5 stars), which is also one of the least in depth reviews I've seen scanning through them.
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An engaging documentary. Makes for a good watch when binging Nat Geo content
Ultimately, I'd say you can be pretty confident that this doc sucks unless you just really love Fauci. The trailer and filmmaker description is essentially a warning saying just that. It was really dumb to put it out while he's still doing his thing, since his thing is seen as a big negative to most people in this country.
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