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re: Fathers that always look at the negatives; never give praise

Posted on 8/11/24 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 6:26 pm to
My dad was never in my life, so I never really had one. I made it a point to tell my kids that I loved them every day and that I was proud of them, but they knew when they screwed up too. I’m thankful every day that I got to be a dad, and feel sorry for my own father that he never experienced what it was like to be a dad. Life is all about choices and responsibilities.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/11/24 at 6:30 pm to
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Never needed a pat on the head. I knew he loved me by working his arse off to provide food and shelter.


Yep. At some point you realize that when your dad didn’t call you a dumbass, that was the praise.

Old school dad’s aren’t going to pat you on the head every time you don’t frick up.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6155 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 6:34 pm to
I try to take a balanced approach. I give praise for honesty, effort, and a job well done. I will also call out laziness, lying, and slacking.

That said, I call myself out when I don't live up to the standards I set for my children.

Part of being a good parent is remembering what it was like to be a kid and recognizing that it's your job to be their role model.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14871 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:18 pm to
I used to tease my teen daughter about stuff when she was young.

“ Get that smile off your face. It’s homework time”
“Your fun is coming to an end” when it was time to go home.

Sometimes I wish I had never done any of it. She’s turned out great. She’s 14 and I heap praise on her every chance we get.



Now that’s she in high school we need to be more serious.



Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:27 pm to
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As a child, how many of your fathers never encouraged or complimented your achievements or always sought out the negative instead of positive?



Didn't know I had a brother I get why my Dad was like that though. His Dad was a POS who didn't really care about any of his kids. He took the opposite approach and cared a lot, but it came across overly negative most of the times. I give way more praise to my son, but I still take the lessons my Dad taught me about being there for your kids.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137947 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:27 pm to
A parent’s job is to be the thermostat. When you’re low, they bring you up. When you’re running too hot, they bring you back down. My dad has done a great job at that.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 4:28 pm
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34559 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:30 pm to
I am working on this with my 4 and 5yo boys. It isn’t so much focusing on the negative as constant telling them to stop breaking shite, including each other’s face. Trying to get in a be more proactively positive. Ok gotta go. More broken shite.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14871 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:39 pm to
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Makes me never want to be that way for my kids


I’m glad I’m reading things like this.

Seems like when some POS abuses their kid some shithead lib says “that’s how he was raised and can’t help it.”
Never understood that reasoning.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:59 pm to
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I’d also like to suggest a book I just had suggested to me, in dealing with these struggles, and you never really do out grow these issues if you don’t understand them first.



Fantastic book to recommend. Also a quick read so not something that'll take up a ton of time either.

It's also worth noting that you can positively reinforce your child when they do good but still set good, healthy boundaries with them in teaching them when they're wrong (and giving them consequences when they do so).

For OP, my Dad was and is a mean bastard. He hasn't drank in awhile but he was a functional alcoholic growing up that was violent at best. He was the King of telling everyone they didn't meet his expectations while never himself meeting anyone else's. And he often resorted to beating us if he was in the mood to do so (that's all it took for it to happen).

We suspect he may have been abusive towards my Mom when she was dying of cancer, but don't have anyway to prove it at this point. He went out of his way to try to keep myself, my Maternal Grandmother, and my Uncle away when she was sick.
Posted by Tha crook
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:13 pm to
You need to teach your kid there’s no ceiling to what they can do . Never fold
Posted by Defiler
Member since Jul 2024
422 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:16 pm to


That's how we do it in Belgium.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58247 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:18 pm to
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My father wasn’t like that, but I tell my son I love him and I’m proud of him as much as I can.

That’s why these little millenial kids are so soft these days
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32873 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:36 pm to
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Fathers that always look at the negatives; never give praise

As a child, how many of your fathers never encouraged or complimented your achievements or always sought out the negative instead of positive?

For example making a 90 on a test and him asking where the other 10 points were.
My father was like this. Hell he still is.

Always pushing me to do better, while not giving much praise. Fortunately I was pretty good in athletics and academics, but there was always that part of him that said something about doing better despite how well I did.

Like when I got my first airline job, everyone started off as a flight engineer. He congratulated me on getting hired, but literally right after I finished training successfully, he was on my arse about upgrading to first officer. When I upgraded to first officer, he was riding my arse about upgrading to captain. When I upgraded to captain, it was when was I going to be a check airman. I think he’s disappointed in me because I never became a fighter pilot. Been that way my whole life.

It’s fricking exhausting.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 11:17 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40771 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:49 pm to
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As a child, how many of your fathers never encouraged or complimented your achievements or always sought out the negative instead of positive?


This was my dad. It made me a perfectionist and a people pleaser who is prone to hypersensitivity and defensiveness. Negativity certainly has its place in child rearing, but it cannot be constant.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32873 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:52 pm to
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there is a HUGE difference between saying good try and good swings.
What’s the difference? I seriously don’t know.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32873 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:05 pm to
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Dads push, Moms nurture.
That’s definitely how I was raised.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1402 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:21 pm to
My dad was an over the road owner operator truck driver my whole life and was gone ALOT. But when he was home, he made sure I was with him. Whether it was fishing, running errands, working on his truck, or just sitting around in a Sunday afternoon watching westerns. Always taking these times to teach me life lessons. He always listened to me, encouraged and supported me. He would also whip my arse in heartbeat if I was disrespectful or doing something stupid. If he saw I was just not fulfilling my full potential due to slacking or being lazy it was usually a 2 hour lecture.
He fell into a meth addiction from the time I was about 14 that lasted til I was 40. I eventually cut ties with him completely at 30 because I just couldn’t take the pain anymore of always trying to get him help and him never taking it. A couple years later he ended up in prison because he let some crack head he was dating talk him into setting up a lab in his house. He spent 7 years inside but when he came out he was completely clean and back to the father I had grown up with.
Somehow landed a job with start up construction company hauling heavy equipment and grew with them. He retired last year at 72 as the number 3 man in the company and had a fat bank account. He remarried about 5 years ago and is doing great. Now he catches up time missed with me, my son, and getting to enjoy every second of his 3 fairly recent great grandkids. He is as loving, supporting and encouraging to them as he was to me as a child. Still hugs me and tells me he loves me every time I see him, as I do with my son and daughter. I wish I had never lost the time that his addiction robbed of us but at thankful every day that I got him back. Dude has been a chain smoker since he was 16, spent a lifetime eating like crap in truck stops all over America, and poisoned his body with meth for 26 years and I think at 72 could still kick my arse. How this man is still alive I have no idea. Hell he really didn’t even want to retire and truth be told probably still spends 2 or 3’days a week at the office or the yard piddling around with something. Called him the other day and he was half way to Midland delivering some equipment.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 11:32 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32873 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:45 pm to
Glad you “got your dad back” bro.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3112 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 5:32 am to
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My father wasn’t like that, but I tell my son I love him and I’m proud of him as much as I can.


This.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
1728 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 5:42 am to
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For example making a 90 on a test and him asking where the other 10 points were.


Delivery is one thing but teaching someone not to settle or pushing then past what they think they can do, isnt a bad thing.
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