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re: Father/Son dumpster shooting of neighbor murder trial. Dad GUILTY. Son NOT GUILTY

Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:13 pm to
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Querstion - did baw grab a bat after they confronted him w guns?



IF the video is to be believed. According to the link in OP, dead guy had a gun but had pawned it a few weeks ago. Bad timing.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:13 pm to
you are fabricating the scene just like the prosecutor is going to. That doesn't mean that is what was going on.

They were standing there. They said they were going to defend themselves. They are in a very lenient state for this to go their way.

I think they still we be found guilty on something just because this day and age, and how the public.... people like you cant see beyond the trashiness.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 4:15 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:14 pm to
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you are fabricating the scene just like the prosecutor is going to. That doesn't mean that is what was going on.



Motherfricker watch the damn video
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I think they still we be going guilty on something just because this day and age, and how the public.... people like you cant see beyond the trashiness.


They will be found guilty because they are fricking guilty. Using your logic Kyle Rittenhouse is locked up.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:16 pm to
I watched the video.....Orange man said multipl time he was going to kill him and the guy said... i will protect myself.... Then from the looks of it... he did.

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They will be found guilty because they are fricking guilty.
guilty of what? Did he shoot the guy... of course.... did he murder him.... I would say no.
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16757 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:18 pm to
Damn. First I’m seeing this story. I wasn’t really phased until the screaming. Regardless of how disgusting all of those people are, I can’t imagine watching your spouse get blasted right in front of your eyes then seeing his brains exposed.
In other news, her future in videography looks bleak.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:19 pm to
I think the son may be found guilty to some degree on the basis that when he fired, the guy had already been shot and was no longer a threat of D/SBH.

The video leaves a lot to be desired re: the dead guy's position and actions.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58279 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:19 pm to
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Using your logic Kyle Rittenhouse is locked up.

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cant see beyond the trashiness
Kyle was a perfect situation of a school boy look. Hence why i said "trashy" And yes Kyle being rightfully found not guilty was a shock to me.....

Just like i wasnt shocked that that cop was found guilty of holding down a guy ODing....
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:19 pm to
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guilty of what? Did he shoot the guy... of course.... did he murder him.... I would say no.



I'm not going to say which specific law, as I'm neither a lawyer or in TX. But to me, justifying shooting the guy who was originally unarmed when you walked out with your guns to confront him is gonna be almost impossible, especially with the video. The bat isn't thrown until after the dad shoots twice and his gun jams. The dad even told investigators he doesn't call 911. Those aren't the words of someone not looking for trouble.
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:20 pm to
Dumpster Defenders.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37482 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:20 pm to
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Using your logic Kyle Rittenhouse is locked up.

Using analogies in these situations really isn't doing yourself any favors.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:21 pm to
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Kyle was a perfect situation of a school boy look. Hence why i said "trashy" And yes Kyle being rightfully found not guilty was a show to me.....

Plenty of people called him trashy and all sorts of other terrible things. You're just downplaying it because it goes against your claim.


Try not too hard to cry when fatty and fatty jr end up behind bars.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:21 pm to
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But to me, justifying shooting the guy who was originally unarmed when you walked out with your guns to confront him is gonna be almost impossible, especially with the video.
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I'm not going to say which specific law, as I'm neither a lawyer or in TX.
well......you would bee kicked out of the jury pool with a quickness.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58279 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:23 pm to
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Plenty of people called him trashy and all sorts of other terrible things. You're just downplaying it because it goes against your claim.

you sound a lib arguing. Bring no substance, then attack your opponent when you have nothing else.

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ry not too hard to cry when fatty and fatty jr end up behind bars.
WTF are you talking about.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10905 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:26 pm to
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According to the link in OP, dead guy had a gun but had pawned it a few weeks ago. Bad timing.

That’s the worst when that happens. Pawn your gun to buy some meth and then get wasted by two shirtless fat bastards.
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:11 pm to
Damn that's next level trashy
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:19 pm to
I watched. Manslaughter at worst. The big hysterical guy threatened to kill both of them. Tubby was pretty consistent with back off.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 5:30 pm to
I remember this case. Both sides had a chance to walk away and didnt. Dude that got shot was motioning towards the father and sun and was very aggressive saying hed kill both them om several occasions. The father and son should have just called the cops.
Posted by BlueRunner
Member since Nov 2022
754 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 6:14 pm to
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ETA This is reasonable and calm to you
Sun Tzu says to act strong when weak.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:26 pm to
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Arming yourself with a weapon and approaching close to someone will be enough to justify self defense shooting.


The problem, based on the arguments in the video, is that father and son were brandishing their weapons. Notice the departed cusses them out for pulling a gun on him in front of his kids? That’s why I believe these guys will see time.
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