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re: father has cancer and it's spreading all over.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:59 pm to oldcharlie8
Posted on 4/21/16 at 4:59 pm to oldcharlie8
Well I am sorry to hear about that first off. If your dad hasn't gotten one, I would suggest a Pet scan. When my mom's cancer came back, she had a ct scan, etc. and that showed nothing. Pet scan was the only thing that worked. This was back in 2007. Other than that I would look into getting him to MD Anderson for a second opinion. Maybe they have a clinical trial or an alternative chemo treatment. I know it may sound pointless but maybe worth a shot. My mom's cancer was terminal when it came back, but we went to MD Anderson anyway. She made it about a year and a month. I wouldn't wish cancer on my worst enemy. Terrible thing to happen to someone when it is terminal.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 5:02 pm to BigEdLSU
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Get right with God. Now.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 5:55 pm to oldcharlie8
Very sorry to hear this. Hospice and Palliative Care can be a wonderful help for you and your dad. Most have a team of hospice trained professionals who help the patient and family develop a plan of care for their patients. Doctors, nurses, aides, social workers,chaplains make up the team. Hospice helps the entire family.
Everyone has offered great advice and support. I would also recommend getting his affairs in order, if that's not already done.
Prayers!
Everyone has offered great advice and support. I would also recommend getting his affairs in order, if that's not already done.
Prayers!
Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:01 pm to oldcharlie8
I am very sorry to hear this about your father. I will pray for you, your father, and your family.
My grandfather passed away from cancer several years ago. When his end was near, my mother held nothing back. She cared for him, she spent time with him, she talked with him, she told him just how much she loved him, she told him just how good of a father he was to her, she wept with him, she embraced him. My grandfather was a very strong and silent type of man. Yet what my mother did and said to him, with nothing held back, meant everything to him. And it helped my mother as well. She had no regrets.
On the opposite side of this story, my aunt (my mother's sister) was in denial. She did not make any steps to talk sincerely and intimately with my grandfather. She mostly dwelled on the pain and loss that she felt and that she was going through. She could not face such conversations and she was largely unable to assist with any arrangements. They never really had any form of goodbye or honest open discussion. Afterwards, she was consumed with anger and heartbreak. It was difficult, often impossible to be around her. She would lash out at other family members. To this day, she remains a largely angry and bitter person.
A family friend, who is a psychiatrist, told us that failure to have a sincere and honest goodbye, missing that chance to really tell someone just what he or she means to you, often leaves one with immense feelings of regret and anger. It is a serious impediment to the healing process.
This is just a personal story that I have relayed to you with only hope to help you in the journey that you, your father, and your family find yourselves upon. Moreover, do not be afraid to ask your friends for help. And, finally, for yourself in the future, remember: ultimately, life is for living.
May God bless you, your father, and your family.
My grandfather passed away from cancer several years ago. When his end was near, my mother held nothing back. She cared for him, she spent time with him, she talked with him, she told him just how much she loved him, she told him just how good of a father he was to her, she wept with him, she embraced him. My grandfather was a very strong and silent type of man. Yet what my mother did and said to him, with nothing held back, meant everything to him. And it helped my mother as well. She had no regrets.
On the opposite side of this story, my aunt (my mother's sister) was in denial. She did not make any steps to talk sincerely and intimately with my grandfather. She mostly dwelled on the pain and loss that she felt and that she was going through. She could not face such conversations and she was largely unable to assist with any arrangements. They never really had any form of goodbye or honest open discussion. Afterwards, she was consumed with anger and heartbreak. It was difficult, often impossible to be around her. She would lash out at other family members. To this day, she remains a largely angry and bitter person.
A family friend, who is a psychiatrist, told us that failure to have a sincere and honest goodbye, missing that chance to really tell someone just what he or she means to you, often leaves one with immense feelings of regret and anger. It is a serious impediment to the healing process.
This is just a personal story that I have relayed to you with only hope to help you in the journey that you, your father, and your family find yourselves upon. Moreover, do not be afraid to ask your friends for help. And, finally, for yourself in the future, remember: ultimately, life is for living.
May God bless you, your father, and your family.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:25 pm to oldcharlie8
"The Living Years"-Mike+Mechanics
Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door
I know that I'm a prisoner
To all my Father held so dear
I know that I'm a hostage
To all his hopes and fears
I just wish I could have told him in the living years
Crumpled bits of paper
Filled with imperfect thought
Stilted conversations
I'm afraid that's all we've got
You say you just don't see it
He says it's perfect sense
You just can't get agreement
In this present tense
We all talk a different language
Talking in defense
Say it loud, say it clear
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late when we die
To admit we don't see eye to eye
Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door
I know that I'm a prisoner
To all my Father held so dear
I know that I'm a hostage
To all his hopes and fears
I just wish I could have told him in the living years
Crumpled bits of paper
Filled with imperfect thought
Stilted conversations
I'm afraid that's all we've got
You say you just don't see it
He says it's perfect sense
You just can't get agreement
In this present tense
We all talk a different language
Talking in defense
Say it loud, say it clear
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late when we die
To admit we don't see eye to eye
Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:34 pm to oldcharlie8
I will say a prayer for you sir. This is my worst fear in life.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:40 pm to tigersownall
cross one thing off his bucket list, if possible ...
he's gonna die ... nothing you can do about it ... enjoy a last hurrah together ...
you'll get through it ...
we all do ...
he's gonna die ... nothing you can do about it ... enjoy a last hurrah together ...
you'll get through it ...
we all do ...
Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:42 pm to oldcharlie8
People can live a long time with metastatic prostate cancer.
Hormone therapy (which has many different options in itself), good pain management, chemo, cytostatic diet, palliative radiation or radiopharmaceutical, immunotherapy...
These are all good options. Focus on symptom management and quality of life as this is now treated as a chronic disease. Best of luck and find good oncologists.
Hormone therapy (which has many different options in itself), good pain management, chemo, cytostatic diet, palliative radiation or radiopharmaceutical, immunotherapy...
These are all good options. Focus on symptom management and quality of life as this is now treated as a chronic disease. Best of luck and find good oncologists.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 6:56 pm to metallica81788
quote:
Focus on symptom management and quality of life as this is now treated as a chronic disease.
Very well said. For a large percentage of advanced prostate cancer, this is true
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:54 pm to meauxjeaux2
quote:
Get a good Cancer doctor. If in BR have him go to MBP and get hooked up with Dr. Hanson. Best down to earth, no BS doctor he ever went to. That's what y'all need right now. A doctor that will not fill your heads with false hopes.
Dr. Hanson is awesome. He has the greatest demeanor and some of the best patient-doctor interactions I've ever witnessed.
I would also suggest a consultation with Dr. Vince Cataldo. That man might be one of the smartest doctors I know. Seriously. He's a genius. Trained at MD Anderson.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:59 pm to oldcharlie8
Welcome to my '88-'89.
Cancer sucks.
Sorry for y'all.
Cancer sucks.
Sorry for y'all.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:05 pm to oldcharlie8
quote:
anyone can give me advice to make this NOT SUCK so fricking much?
I wish I could. Spend as much time with him as you can, and let him know you love him. Unconditionally.
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:17 pm to oldcharlie8
I know your pain. Same thing happened with my dad last year. He told me something before he passed and I've taken it to heart.
Some people go in an instant. You can have a heart attack, be killed in a car accident, whatever. Or you can know your time is up ahead of time and make the most of it with your closest family and friends
Spend as much time as you can with your dad. Hope for the best, but assume the worst, since that will motivate you to do as much as you can for him
Some people go in an instant. You can have a heart attack, be killed in a car accident, whatever. Or you can know your time is up ahead of time and make the most of it with your closest family and friends
Spend as much time as you can with your dad. Hope for the best, but assume the worst, since that will motivate you to do as much as you can for him
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:23 pm to 62Tigerfan
quote:
"The Living Years"-Mike+Mechanics
OK, I'll admit it. That one makes me tear up a little....
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:52 pm to oldcharlie8
All I can offer are prayers. I'm sorry that he is going through this as well as your family. Hopefully the advice given from other posters here helps your dad.
I hope you are not alone in having to care and comfort him.
I hope you are not alone in having to care and comfort him.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:57 pm to oldcharlie8
Been there, done that. Its going to suck no matter what. Just enjoy every moment you have with your father. Stay positive but dont miss a moment.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:48 am to oldcharlie8
do not come to an impersonal world of 1 and 0's ie a forum.. Go to the darkest quietist corner of your world and seek God's wisdom. Ask him for his hand as you navigate one of the most difficult endeavors any human must engage. God speed to and yours
Posted on 4/22/16 at 5:14 am to oldcharlie8
quote:
started as prostate. now.......it's spread to the bones.
I have metastatic castrate resistant prostate cancer with bone mets, Gleason 9. I was diagnosed over 5 years ago. My treatments were surgery, radiation, hormone therapy and androgen blockers. I have applied for immunotherapy (provenge). The bone mets were found about 3 years ago. I still work full time and have generally good quality of life. I have been to MD Anderson twice and was told the cancer is incurable, but treatable.
I know of one man who was told the same thing at MDA and now his PSA is undetectable and his doctors can find no cancer. I know of another man with metastatic PCa diagnosed over 10 years ago with a PSA of 3200 and he has been in durable remission for years. I am telling all of this to encourage you and your dad.
The medication I am taking now is working and was not FDA approved until 2014.
There are many effective treatments available. Seek out your local PCa support group.
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:03 am to oldcharlie8
If you have the means to go to MD Anderson--do it ASAP!
Your father may have longer to live than you think. People can live with certain cancers for years with still a good quality of life
I believe in the power of positive thinking. Don't be negative around your father. Don't just assume because he has cancer he should just lie around and wait. It doesn't necessarily have to be this way. If he is tired, sure, rest. If he is able and wants to work, he should. If he wants to get out and about, y'all go do something fun. He may very well feel fine some or most days. Enjoy it! Be strong for him and for yourself.
Your father may have longer to live than you think. People can live with certain cancers for years with still a good quality of life
I believe in the power of positive thinking. Don't be negative around your father. Don't just assume because he has cancer he should just lie around and wait. It doesn't necessarily have to be this way. If he is tired, sure, rest. If he is able and wants to work, he should. If he wants to get out and about, y'all go do something fun. He may very well feel fine some or most days. Enjoy it! Be strong for him and for yourself.
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