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re: Famed atheist and biologist calls the idea of more than two genders “utter nonsense”
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:57 am to RTRinTampa
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:57 am to RTRinTampa
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Then why do transGENDER women insist on using female (sex) restrooms? Do we need 52 different gender bathrooms?
You've taken a really simple issue and over complicated it.
Transgenders' problem isn't between their legs. It's between their ears. Cutting off physical body parts won't resolve a mental problem.
I can't answer why transgender woman insist on using female bathrooms. I am not certain that it is as big an issue as many like to make out...I am 58 years old and have been in some public restrooms and as far as I know I have never noticed a transgender man in the men's room. If it is as widespread as many of you seem to think it is that would seem improbable.
What is the issue with transgender woman using the ladies room, by the way? What is it that some of y'all are up to in public restrooms that is so frightening? That is the truly interesting issue. I can't imagine how you would know a person was a transgender man while youre using a public men's restroom. You for sure and certain ain't just in there taking care of the business the thing was designed for...that is an irrefutable fact.
Interestingly your use of the term "female restroom" indicates that you understand gender has nothing to do with sex. A bathroom has no sex (normally, I won't comment on what goes on in a bathroom when someone is identifying other patron's sex in there). A bathroom is either male or female because culturally and societally we expect it to be. Mainly it is the sign on the door. There is nothing inherently biological about a bathroom. Its gender is assigned by societal and cultural traits.
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:03 am to UGATiger26
BTW, why did Bronc's posts unironically mocking Roger's cancer and wishing death upon him get deleted?
Unless Roger requested they come down, keep them up. Expose this bloodthirsty and perverse ideology for what it truly is. Bronc just happened to let his mask slip.
There's a reason the LGBT flag has been co-opted by this movement and turned into a bright, rainbow hodgepodge of harmless-looking pinks and blues. It's designed to look fun and "kid friendly."
It's the same trap that an angler fish uses.
Unless Roger requested they come down, keep them up. Expose this bloodthirsty and perverse ideology for what it truly is. Bronc just happened to let his mask slip.
There's a reason the LGBT flag has been co-opted by this movement and turned into a bright, rainbow hodgepodge of harmless-looking pinks and blues. It's designed to look fun and "kid friendly."
It's the same trap that an angler fish uses.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 7:35 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:09 am to AwgustaDawg
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I can't answer why transgender woman insist on using female bathrooms.
Of course you can't.
You are the expert and have all the answers, but for some reason, this one stumps you. And we all know why...including you. But you won't admit it because then you, the emperor, will have to face the fact that you really are naked.
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Interestingly your use of the term "female restroom" indicates that you understand gender has nothing to do with sex. A bathroom has no sex (normally, I won't comment on what goes on in a bathroom when someone is identifying other patron's sex in there). A bathroom is either male or female because culturally and societally we expect it to be. Mainly it is the sign on the door. There is nothing inherently biological about a bathroom. Its gender is assigned by societal and cultural traits.
You are such a clown.
Actually, they are designed around biology. Ever seen a woman use a urinal before?
Of course, you'll just ignore the reality staring you in the face and concoct some more hack sophistry to explain this away. Probably starting along the lines of..."actually, I have seen a drunk girl use a urinal before," as if that somehow invalidates my very obvious point.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 7:28 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:29 am to AwgustaDawg
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Interestingly your use of the term "female restroom" indicates that you understand gender has nothing to do with sex. A bathroom has no sex (normally, I won't comment on what goes on in a bathroom when someone is identifying other patron's sex in there). A bathroom is either male or female because culturally and societally we expect it to be. Mainly it is the sign on the door. There is nothing inherently biological about a bathroom. Its gender is assigned by societal and cultural traits.
This is embarrassingly stupid
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:45 am to AwgustaDawg
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You ask why it is so hard to lay off the kids? The answer is clear...we identify a child's gender at birth and expect that child to comply. We reinforce this expectation of compliance daily. Man has done this since the beginning of time. It is human nature. That is why it is so difficult for us, all of us, every single human who ever was, is and ever will be, you and me included, to lay off the kids. You can't control anyone's actions other than your own. The question you should be asking is why can't you lay off the kids? Why are you invested in gender assignment at birth and societal and cultural reinforcement of that assignment with no consideration of the individual's thusly assigned opinion on what is a seriously private issue? It ain't none of your business. If you don't want your kid to know about the world around them that is your business. Do your job as a parent and allow others the same consideration. Lead by example.
this is some twisted horseshite. i pray your career doesn’t involve young impressionable minds.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:52 am to UGATiger26
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You are such a clown.
Actually, they are designed around biology. Ever seen a woman use a urinal before?
Of course, you'll just ignore the reality staring you in the face and concoct some more hack sophistry to explain this away. Probably starting along the lines of..."actually, I have seen a drunk girl use a urinal before," as if that somehow invalidates my very obvious point.
As a matter of fact I have seen a woman use a urinal many times at concerts and in bars. Quite succesfully, by the way.
A urinal is not required in a men's room though...it is the sign on the door that makes a bathroom a gender specific bathroom, not the plumbing fixtures. There a lot of men's rooms without urinals and I know of at least 2 women's rooms on a large federal project with urinals. They are trailers and the only thing indicating their gender is the sign on the door. Why do they exist? Because they were less expensive than the same trailer built by the same manufacturer who had those 2 in stock and offered them to the installing vendor at a lower price. Believe it or not other than the employees joking about it they work as well as the ladies room model....
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:53 am to UGATiger26
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BTW, why did Bronc's posts unironically mocking Roger's cancer and wishing death upon him get deleted?
Unless Roger requested they come down, keep them up. Expose this bloodthirsty and perverse ideology for what it truly is. Bronc just happened to let his mask slip.
Agreed. Where did they go? They need to be on full display for everyone to see.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:54 am to AwgustaDawg
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As a matter of fact I have seen a woman use a urinal many times at concerts and in bars. Quite succesfully, by the way.
A urinal is not required in a men's room though...it is the sign on the door that makes a bathroom a gender specific bathroom, not the plumbing fixtures. There a lot of men's rooms without urinals and I know of at least 2 women's rooms on a large federal project with urinals. They are trailers and the only thing indicating their gender is the sign on the door. Why do they exist? Because they were less expensive than the same trailer built by the same manufacturer who had those 2 in stock and offered them to the installing vendor at a lower price. Believe it or not other than the employees joking about it they work as well as the ladies room model....
Now I'm feel like I'm conversing with a robot.
Do you not realize that I literally predicted, almost verbatim, the first words you typed?
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 7:56 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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But it’s very upsetting
Why? Idgaf or care how people chooses to identify themselves... They can be a alligator for all I care. How does it affect me?
It's time we as people stop being so obsessed with other people
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 7:57 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:00 am to solus
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Why? Idgaf or care how people chooses to identify themselves... They can be a alligator for all I care. How does it affect me?
It's time we as people stop being so obsessed with other people
Because when you start injecting this shite into children's education and programming (which is what the majority of this tread is about), it does affect other people.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:03 am to High C
All this “Woke”stuff reminds me of the old children’s story the Emperor's New Cloths. Everyone sees reality they are just to frightened to say what they see.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:14 am to sabbertooth
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All this “Woke”stuff reminds me of the old children’s story the Emperor's New Cloths. Everyone sees reality they are just to frightened to say what they see.
That is exactly what it is. That's literally the plot and theme of Hans Christian Andersen's original story.
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In “The Emperor’s New Clothes” the rogues who pretend they are master tailors weaving the most intricate patterns explain that their exquisite art uses only “the finest silk and gold thread.” So subtle is the skill of their hands and craft that it possesses “the wonderful property of remaining invisible to anyone who was not fit for his job or who was particularly stupid.”
Flattered by the impression of his public appearance in the most beautiful clothing spun by the most renowned weavers using the best of materials, the Emperor—not to take any risks about giving an impression of incompetence or stupidity—sends his old minister to view the progress of the masterpiece.
Appealing to the vanity of the Emperor whose love of fashionable clothing and grand appearances supersedes the love of truth, the weavers invent the lie that convinces the Emperor not to see with his eyes or think with his mind lest he lose his self-importance and respectable image. How could anyone admire a stupid king who cannot appreciate a beautiful work of art?
The old minister dare not give the impression of incompetence at the cost of his position at court. As he watches the weavers at their work and thinks, “I can’t see a thing!” he fears to speak the simple truth and to risk his status as the king’s advisor. Impressions and appearances must be preserved to appease the king at all costs: “Am I really unfit for my job? No, it certainly won’t do for me to say I can’t see the cloth!” When a lower official is sent to see the beautiful cloth at the loom, he too—fearing a loss of status—reacts in the same way as the minister and reports, “It’s quite the finest thing I’ve ever seen!” Convinced he is not stupid but suspicious that he might be unfit for his job, he must safeguard his reputation and maintain the image of a qualified official. The Emperor’s vanity, the minister’s pride, and the official’s self-interest dictate that they uphold the illusion of the weavers’ magnificent cloth.
Seem eerily familiar?
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 8:14 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:14 am to Mr. Hangover
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that’s because if a child is born with a penis, it’s a male, and if it’s born with a vagina, it’s a female. That’s all there is to it. There are no exceptions.
You are 100%, without reserve on my part, and undeniably right as rain in this assertion. It is an absolute fact that the presence of a penis is a biological certainty that the person attached is a male. The same applies to a vagina and a female. Biology cannot be denied... there are those who will but as you so eloquently point out in the rest of your post they are idiots.
Gender, on the other hand, has no basis in biology or science. It is, in its entirety, based on cultural and societal expectations based on the biological fact but in no way dependent on that fact because no one ever consults the individual on the matter. Consultation is not necessary as it is the culture and society at large who determines gender, not biology and not the individual. Most individuals accept the opinion of the masses on their gender. Some, for a myriad of reasons, do not. Given that it is a pretty basic foundation of an individual's sense of themselves it is logical to accept, as readily, their sense of self in the same way we accept the typical person who accepts the masses sense of the individual. To suggest otherwise indicates that the individual making the suggestion has DECIDED that they are indeed in agreement with the masses and had considered alternatives. I don't think many people have ever done this...I know I haven't. It could indicate why so many people are put off by the idea that sex and gender are not the same thing....guilt and self recrimination are powerful forces.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:14 am to AwgustaDawg
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As a matter of fact I have seen a woman use a urinal many times at concerts and in bars. Quite succesfully, by the way. A urinal is not required in a men's room though...it is the sign on the door that makes a bathroom a gender specific bathroom, not the plumbing fixtures. They’re a lot of men's rooms without urinals and I know of at least 2 women's rooms on a large federal project with urinals. They are trailers and the only thing indicating their gender is the sign on the door. Why do they exist? Because they were less expensive than the same trailer built by the same manufacturer who had those 2 in stock and offered them to the installing vendor at a lower price. Believe it or not other than the employees joking about it they work as well as the ladies room model....
This thread is an absolute abortion and just keeps getting worse and worse.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:15 am to sabbertooth
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All this “Woke”stuff reminds me of the old children’s story the Emperor's New Cloths. Everyone sees reality they are just to frightened to say what they see.
Speaking out against the absolute insanity isn't what people are afraid of. It is the fact that these supposedly "oppressed" people have the power to cancel you, fire you, or ruin your life now if you don't walk lock step with the narrative. That is what is happening.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:19 am to UGATiger26
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Now I'm feel like I'm conversing with a robot.
Do you not realize that I literally predicted, almost verbatim, the first words you typed?
Thus the very reason I did just that....your words were humorous and my repeating them was done as an indication of my appreciation of them.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:20 am to sabbertooth
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All this “Woke”stuff reminds me of the old children’s story the Emperor's New Cloths. Everyone sees reality they are just to frightened to say what they see.
you could of just told us you prefer keeping your head in the sand.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:21 am to BigAppleTiger
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BigAppleTiger
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more than two genders
What % of soy does a man need to be made of to buy into this retarded shite? You people will fall for anything
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:24 am to AwgustaDawg
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AwgustaDawg
You never addressed the fact that you were dead wrong about animal names in Latin-based languages being universally masculine. I think you just gave me a downvote. If you can't get simple shite like that correct, then why should we believe anything else you have to say on this matter, which is exponentially more abstract?
Of course, I know you'll try to weasel your way out of that one too with your "almost" qualifier.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:37 am to High C
Same chemicals in brain that influence his atheism are in play in people who don’t fit in either/or.
Indeed, same ones in play to influence those who agree or disagree with him.
Two kinds of Bags of chemistry humans:
1. Those that don’t know this
2.Those that don’t know they don’t know this
Indeed, same ones in play to influence those who agree or disagree with him.
Two kinds of Bags of chemistry humans:
1. Those that don’t know this
2.Those that don’t know they don’t know this
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