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re: F. King Alexander is responsible for LSU holistic requirements and more minority students

Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:51 am to
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:51 am to
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That’s twice the number of applicants they would get 5-10 years ago. 56,000 is insane. So even w some doing no score, the average scores of the kids they take has gotten higher because of dramatically increased competition and a more talented overall pool. So yeah. It has gone up


Respectfully, you're missing the big picture here. The Common App makes it ridiculously easy to apply to various colleges all at one time (up to 20). Virtually every kid from Louisiana is going to check the LSU box even if they have no intention of going there. This includes kids who are high achieving looking for scholarships but also low-achieving who now have a shot with holistic admissions.

LSU is not necessarily more desirable, as The Common App allows you to send way more applications in than students would normally send in if they had to do them one at a time.
Posted by rs_la
Member since Mar 2023
202 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:13 pm to
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It’s a clever plan to get out of state fees from pell grant and other government source funding.


Nailed it.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:44 pm to
As far as ACT scores going up, is there a way of finding out what percentage of applicants reported taking the test and submitting scores? Because that would only be meaningful if an applicant applied to only test-optional schools, right?
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:47 pm to
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the current incoming class at lsu has the highest ever ACT scores for lsu freshman


Guess how many times you can RE-TAKE the ACT now...Just guess.
12 TIMES....TWELVE.
In my day you got one shot at the ACT and the SAT and nobody had a tutor..the current system is a joke.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79932 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:53 pm to
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Tate was solid and not remotely the DEI apostle that I and many other feared he would be.

Little Man Landry fricked up chasing him off
Nope and nope.
Posted by PelicanState87
Member since May 2024
388 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:13 pm to
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Yes, if they cannot compete academically.

The issue is "holistic" admissions.
AKA, lowered standards for minorities.


White liberals are the true racists. Blacks don't need standards lowered, they just need equal opportunity. Meaning if they have expected ACT scores and GPA, they should get in and they can get in today. It's extremely insulting to me as a Black person that White liberals feel like Blacks are incapable of performing to the levels of their White peers without intervention from White saviors

I academically outperformed most of my White peers ... I didn't need any extra White savior handouts ... I worked hard and did what needed to be done.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 2:16 pm
Posted by PelicanState87
Member since May 2024
388 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:18 pm to
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Tulane is the academic flagship of the state.


LSU outranks Tulane in academic research so LSU hold that title. Tulane, however does attract better academically qualified students.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:19 pm to
They are just in the business of watering down degrees now. All part of the Progressive plan to make everyone equally miserable.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53715 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:22 pm to
What is "holistic" admissions?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41546 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 3:46 pm to
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The response was that freshmen aren't required to turn in ACT scores anymore so it skews higher.


What?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130907 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 3:52 pm to
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It's extremely insulting to me as a Black person that White liberals feel like Blacks are incapable of performing to the levels of their White peers without intervention from White saviors

I can make shite up in my head all by myself too.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23079 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:35 pm to
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You need to take a break from the internet. I’m seriously concerned for your health


That’s hilarious coming from you.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3293 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 5:54 pm to
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The holistic requirements and push for black students was from F king Alexander. For fricks sake the internet exists. How people are attributing this to Tate is wild

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Alexander said that due to holistic admissions, LSU increased African-American enrollment by 63% and Hispanic enrollment by 92% from 2015-2020.

Blacks have definitely moved out of the catch-all minority bucket.
Posted by scottyd
Member since Dec 2014
622 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:26 pm to
Is it too much to ask of people to not behave like feral animals?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60662 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:34 pm to
He was president while I was at lsu. Not that the US News rankings mean a lot, but I’m pretty sure we went from the middle of the pack in the sec, and generally trending up, to near the bottom by the time I graduated
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 6:35 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10599 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:36 pm to
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Guess how many times you can RE-TAKE the ACT now...Just guess. 12 TIMES....TWELVE.


Some get discounts or maybe even free tests making multiple tests more affordable.

And at many schools including LSU since 2023 they get the superscore which is the highest section scores from all those tests to calculate the total “composite” score used for admission and scholarship decisions. LSU and probably others did not even change the name from the long standing composite score, and they still call it the composite score in reporting and comparisons to prior years while explaining the superscore change in the fine print.

Tate and his crew pushing highest ACT scores ever with that change on top of standard testing being voluntary shows that they knew no white liberal would challenge their “facts”. They also knew LSU alumni are too focused on sports to look into the fine print as well.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 10:37 pm
Posted by TigerAllNightLong
Member since Jul 2023
1147 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:59 am to
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Nope and nope.

Correct. Tate was smart enough to know where he was working. The problem with Landry is he wants to turn LSU into USL.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
9934 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 8:01 am to
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White liberals are the true racists. Blacks don't need standards lowered, they just need equal opportunity. Meaning if they have expected ACT scores and GPA, they should get in and they can get in today. It's extremely insulting to me as a Black person that White liberals feel like Blacks are incapable of performing to the levels of their White peers without intervention from White saviors I academically outperformed most of my White peers ... I didn't need any extra White savior handouts ... I worked hard and did what needed to be done.


Bet you keep all this to yourself. Say and try to convince other blacks this and you will be called an Uncle Tom.
Posted by rs_la
Member since Mar 2023
202 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:11 am to
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They also knew LSU alumni are too focused on sports to look into the fine print as well.


This is a large part of the issue.
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
2209 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:15 am to
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But yall get on here and say HBCUs are not needed, then the next breathe its LSU has too many minorities.


I think the OP is too warm to the idea of "holistic requirements" that are not academics related.
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