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re: F. King Alexander is responsible for LSU holistic requirements and more minority students

Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:39 pm to
It furthers the argument to close some of these universities, as Louisiana has too many, so that funds can be freed up
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
12058 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:45 pm to
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the current incoming class at lsu has the highest ever ACT scores for lsu freshman…..

But Tate rabble rabble


People are still falling for this! It’s amazing. LSU is now test optional. Therefore the only students sending in test scores are those seeking academic scholarships.Of course the average test scores are higher. I assure most of these out of state admissions are not submitting test scores and would not be accepted at their own state public universities. It’s a clever plan to get out of state fees from pell grant and other government source funding. People are so gullible.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17590 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:51 pm to
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It furthers the argument to close some of these universities, as Louisiana has too many, so that funds can be freed up


100% agree!

But many of those “schools” are untouchable political pets
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37679 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 10:02 pm to
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But many of those “schools” are untouchable political pets


Yep. The racial make up of the topic is the plaque in the arteries. Louisiana is essentially a satellite to Texas and provides labor. We should reform the system and embrace that
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1467 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 10:49 pm to
Ultimate responsibility lies with the Board of Supervisors !
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77420 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 11:16 pm to
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Zero budgeted a lot of shitty useless depts snd made them justify their funding
Which? How many were actually cut out and not just renamed or move into another?

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 funneled more money towards stem and ran a very research forward university in turn that brought about some pretty groundbreaking research partnerships and grants...which is what a university like LSU should be doing and hanging its hat oni
What are the numbers on this and how does it compare to when, say, O'Keefe was running LSU? Again, why hasn't LSU's academic standing improved as a result of his leadership?
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
1578 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:41 am to
Jindal gave LSU both Alexander and Alleva.

JBE showed them both the door.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18314 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 6:18 am to
I always disliked F. King and Alleva but it seems their impact is still lingering.

I’m just now finding out that LSU is ACT optional.

That is crazy. Next president needs to clean that up ASAP.
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
8346 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 7:39 am to
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Maybe because he continued it?


Bingo, he was in a position to stop it and didn’t.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137944 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 8:12 am to
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When my dad went to LSU there was zero entrance qualifications besides a high school diploma. GPA and test scores weren’t used at all

And the classroom level standards were probably 10x what they are now.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137944 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 8:15 am to
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People are still falling for this! It’s amazing. LSU is now test optional. Therefore the only students sending in test scores are those seeking academic scholarships.Of course the average test scores are higher. I assure most of these out of state admissions are not submitting test scores and would not be accepted at their own state public universities. It’s a clever plan to get out of state fees from pell grant and other government source funding. People are so gullible.

His response to this (if he does respond) is going to be hilarious.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
12988 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 8:31 am to
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Which? How many were actually cut out and not just renamed or move into another?


None were cut thats not what im saying....but under Tate all departments had to justify their budget which caused significant screeching from liberal arts (sociology, philosophy etc) who saw their bloated budgets sent to STEM...as it should have been

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What are the numbers on this and how does it compare to when, say, O'Keefe was running LSU? Again, why hasn't LSU's academic standing improved as a result of his leadership?


Not sure the exact comparison but yea..the O'Keefe chancellorship was better but he was also on better footing..as for academic rankings thats a fair point. I think had Tates actions been combined with a reworking of admission standards we would have seen real movement there.

My point stands tho that he is not AS at fault for admissions as the man who created the mess and he did do positive things for the university
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
2469 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:05 am to
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F king Alexander


I think you will see a drop in people naming their kids “F King” after what F King Alexander has done.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111819 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:19 am to
F[uc]King Alexander was terrible in many ways.

Tate was solid and not remotely the DEI apostle that I and many other feared he would be.

Little Man Landry fricked up chasing him off.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44443 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:47 am to
A school shouldn't be even allowed to release their average ACT test score unless 100 percent of the students submit an ACT or SAT score.

Otherwise it is a completely useless statistic.
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
2118 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:56 am to
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A school shouldn't be even allowed to release their average ACT test score unless 100 percent of the students submit an ACT or SAT score. Otherwise it is a completely useless statistic.


Does lsu not require test scores anymore? Because that would be one way to inflate test scores.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1701 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:02 am to
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the current incoming class at lsu has the highest ever ACT scores for lsu freshman…..


Taken straight from LSU's website this morning...

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We know you are more than just a test score. LSU is a test-optional institution. This policy aligns with our admissions philosophy of full-file comprehensive review. This has always been the most important part of the LSU application process, and this will not change, regardless of whether you choose to submit scores.


This is the supposed class profile:

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ACT* 25 - 30 (middle 50%) 28 (average)


But, and this is a big BUT, we are not told how many students actually submitted their scores. Then there's this little tidbit under the chart...

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*Excludes test-optional students


So if you really believe the ACT scores listed, 25% of this LSU freshman class scored a 31 and up on the ACT? According to Act.org, a composite score of 31 would put a person in the 96th percentile. I don't believe 1 in 4 kids in LSU's freshman class earned a score at the 96th percentile or above on the ACT
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2250 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:18 am to
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Tate was solid and not remotely the DEI apostle that I and many other feared he would be.


What gives you the impression Tate wasn’t a DEI apostle? Because he didn’t advertise it?

Wait until you see the official incoming class profile..
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
2143 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:26 am to
I graduated LSU in 2011. They were grading tests on a curve like a mf'er back then, and it was mostly in the physics, chemistry, biology classes. I can only imagine how it is now.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111819 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:06 am to
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What gives you the impression Tate wasn’t a DEI apostle? Because he didn’t advertise it?


Didn't say he wasn't. He just didn't act like what I expected. Not that there wasn't any, but it wasn't remotely as bad as I was expecting.

And the whole point of the OP is that this incoming class is the fruit of Alexander's policies, not Tate's.
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