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re: Ex-Stanford swimmer performed 'sexual outercourse,' not rape, lawyer argues in appeal

Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:04 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:04 am to
Didnt he also finger bang her?

This kid went to my former high school. People still protest outside his parents house apparently
Posted by Dorothy
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:08 am to
Looking up more info on this...He wasn't actually convicted of rape, just sexual assault. He was indicted on rape charges also, but those charges were dropped.

His lawyer is trying to spin this, but it seems like they already did that which is what resulted in the lesser charges.
This post was edited on 7/26/18 at 8:09 am
Posted by VinegarStrokes
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:09 am to
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What base is outercourse? Rounding first and headed to second?


I think it's rounding first, the first base coach giving you the stop sign, but you are fully intent on stretching it to a double.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:10 am to
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His lawyer is trying to spin this, but it seems like they already did that which is what resulted in the lesser charges.




In California, at the time, digital penetration was not considered rape
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:11 am to
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In California, at the time, digital penetration was not considered rape


until everyone started getting #meetooed
Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:13 am to
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Added father Dan Turner, “The fact that he now has to register as a sexual offender for the rest of his life forever alters where he can live, visit, work, and how he will be able to interact with people and organizations.” LINK


That's too bad. I have a solution though, don't rape a woman, and you won't become a sex offender. Do you see how that works out?
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:14 am to
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digital penetration was not considered rape


What about analog?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:17 am to
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What about analog?
Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:25 am to
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Added father Dan Turner, “The fact that he now has to register as a sexual offender for the rest of his life forever alters where he can live, visit, work, and how he will be able to interact with people and organizations.”


Maybe next time try not raping a woman?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:25 am to
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What about analog?



Outdated forms of sex are a thing of the past bro

ETA, photo didnt post earlier
This post was edited on 7/26/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by Dorothy
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:26 am to
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In California, at the time, digital penetration was not considered rape



I understand that. I guess they didn't actually "spin" it last time (sorry for my poor choice of wording), as the rape charges would not have applied to this case.

But I don't agree with their current argument that he was not guilty of sexual assault because it was "outercourse", as they did find evidence that digital penetration occurred and that is considered sexual assault.

It appears that many current news stories are referring to his conviction as "rape" and not "sexual assault". My point is that the distinction needs to be made clear, otherwise Turner's lawyers will have more people agreeing with them that he wasn't actually guilty of the crime of rape.
This post was edited on 7/26/18 at 8:28 am
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 8:54 am to
I think we know what happened. It's just lawyer speak.
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 9:00 am to
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appears that many current news stories are referring to his conviction as "rape" and not "sexual assault". My point is that the distinction needs to be made clear, otherwise Turner's lawyers will have more people agreeing with them that he wasn't actually guilty of the crime of rape.

Wait, you want the media to correctly report something?




Posted by GeeOH
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 9:12 am to
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we've all been ther


A dry jumping swimmer....irony?
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 9:24 am to
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Turner never intended to rape an unconscious woman, he said. The lawyer cited witness accounts that Turner was "violently thrusting but fully clothed" when two Swedish graduate students found him on top of a half-naked, intoxicated woman in 2015.

I mean, best case scenario you battered an unconscious person, and that's not slouch of a crime considering the general creepiness of it all.

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“Brock will have to register at the highest tier, which means he is on the same level as a pedophile/child molester,” his mother, Carleen Turner, wrote.

OK, that's too much. We can't numb the horror of child molesters by putting them in the same class as, as it goes, regular rapists. Also, he's not a child rapist, so that punishment really doesn't fit; I mean, we used to put child molesters to death.
Posted by bengalbait
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 9:34 am to
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Outercourse is rubbing one out in the bleachers with mom and dad

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Posted by Shalimar Sid
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 9:40 am to
Damn shame
This post was edited on 7/26/18 at 9:51 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 9:44 am to
If that was my daughter, he would not need to worry about registering anywhere but a cemetery
Posted by Dawgholio
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 9:46 am to
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 9:46 am to
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OK, that's too much. We can't numb the horror of child molesters by putting them in the same class as, as it goes, regular rapists. Also, he's not a child rapist, so that punishment really doesn't fit; I mean, we used to put child molesters to death.
It may be a little harsh but if he wouldn't have messed with the girl, he wouldn't have to worry about it. Perhaps this will make others think twice before doing something like this.
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