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re: Ex-Space Force Sergeant sentenced to 54 years for fatally shooting attempted car thief

Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37630 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:07 pm to
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This guy didn’t go hunting for trouble.

One could argue that he actually did. He hunted them down, even after they crashed
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:08 pm to
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Wouldn't be felony murder even if it was, because the dead kid was an accomplice to the crime.


Explain this... I thought felony murder was on the accomplices to the crime? Are you saying it's dependent on whether the good guy or one of the bad guys gets killed?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35420 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:09 pm to
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I thought felony murder was on the accomplices to the crime? Are you saying it's dependent on whether the good guy or one of the bad guys gets killed?

Correct. It is not felony murder if the person who dies was an accomplice to the underlying felony. It would need to be the victim of the underlying crime or some third party.

This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
1378 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:09 pm to
How about. If you are committing a crime and get your arse shot, the shooter does not face criminal charges. Guarantee would be less crime.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Correct. It is not felony murder if the person who dies was an accomplice to the underlying felony. It would need to be the victim of the underlying crime or some third party.


I did not know this... learn something new everyday!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35420 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:10 pm to
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How about. If you are committing a crime and get your arse shot, the shooter does not face criminal charges. Guarantee would be less crime.
If had shot them in the driveway, this may make rational, if not necessarily legal sense. Not what happened here though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463673 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
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The people responsible for the murder


The murderer is this person. He's a criminal. You're coddling him.

I didn't even coddle the other criminals, which makes your projection even funnier. You are coddling a much bigger and worse criminal, however.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15518 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Schur confronted the individuals, but the would-be carjackers fled in another car.

The sergeant gave chase in his car and fired multiple rounds at the teens.


People who think like this should not own firearms.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35420 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:12 pm to
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I did not know this... learn something new everyday!

At least that is how it is in Colorado. In Louisiana, accomplices to the crime are not excluded.

All of these things in the criminal realm are heavily state dependent.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60233 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:14 pm to
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How is acting this out not vengeance?
How is letting punks get away with the attempted intentional interference with the property of someone else serve as justice?

They won’t be doing that again. Fair result.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463673 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:14 pm to
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If had shot them in the driveway, this may make rational, if not necessarily legal sense. Not what happened here though.

Exactly.

The whole "chasing after them" completely changes the scenario.

This is completely different than even the Seth Fontenot matter, as the potential theft and shooting were much more related in time/geography.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463673 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:15 pm to
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How is letting punks get away with the attempted intentional interference with the property of someone else

The police are the proper authorities for that action.

I intentionally left out the reference to "justice", for obvious reasons.

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They won’t be doing that again. Fair result.

He won't be murdering anyone else either, I reckon.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
11999 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:16 pm to
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If had shot them in the driveway, this may make rational, if not necessarily legal sense. Not what happened here though.


True.

I doubt the police would have given a crap if he let the criminals flee- maybe that's part of the fatigue. People getting victimized with no recourse will, sometimes, take action themselves.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
70942 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:16 pm to
When I become King we will treat car jackers/robbers like we used to treat horse thieves.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4528 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:21 pm to
Which is unfortunate. Should be able to bring them down. Cops, too. I know there’s court ruling on that, but still. A few go down these thugs might think twice.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
11999 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:21 pm to
All hail King Legend!
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14315 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:23 pm to
a story where all partes learned what FAFO means....,.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60233 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:23 pm to
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The police are the proper authorities for that action.
The true function of the police is for the protection of property.

The police should arrest the surviving thug and pat the shooter on the back.

Justice served.
Posted by The Shaqtus
Member since Jun 2015
622 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:24 pm to
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If people were legally allowed this response, there'd be a whole lot less "theft".


Do y'all think criminals review the criminal code in their jurisdiction before jacking cars? Some people are pieces of shite and no words on a piece of paper or potential punishment is going to deter them from doing whatever they want to do
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
11999 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:25 pm to
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The true function of the police is for the protection of property.


The true function of the police is for the protection of government.
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