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re: Ex-LSP officer unloads; explains how LEO tickets are a $-making operation
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:18 am to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:18 am to Meauxjeaux
i believe the insanely disproportionate amount of citizens incarcerated would disagree with you
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm just sitting here in my truck parked and I bet I'm breaking at least three laws right now that i'm unaware of. The state police are out of control.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 8:31 am
Posted on 7/9/18 at 8:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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You are being taxed without your knowledge. The District Attorney’s office dangles a few dollars in front of police officers and in turn those officers write a required amount of tickets. John DeRosier and his office have made millions of dollars on the backs of hard working, innocent Americans. I never thought of overtime this way until I married my beautiful wife only a year ago. I’ve listened to her stories of struggle as a single mother. How one ticket could literally bury a person who struggles in poverty to feed their children. They are then forced to choose between paying a ticket or a light bill. Lose your lights or be buried under tickets that continue to pile up until you have no other recourse than to sit in jail or make payments for year. Why, you ask? For money!!!”
Always thought this kind of thinking was dumb. You wrote tickets to people who broke traffic laws? Really? That's what you're supposed to do.
They make it sound like it's the troopers' faults for writing tickets to law breakers and not the drivers' faults.
Yeah, if they wrote a thousand tickets to people doing 67 in a 65, that would be different.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:03 am to i am dan
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Always thought this kind of thinking was dumb. You wrote tickets to people who broke traffic laws? Really? That's what you're supposed to do. They make it sound like it's the troopers' faults for writing tickets to law breakers and not the drivers' faults. Yeah, if they wrote a thousand tickets to people doing 67 in a 65, that would be different.
Yeah. He’s trying to appeal to a certain demographic which, coincidentally, is the loudest ones on social media, to have a little bit of fame and say “yeah I got them good.”
As I said before, part of your job as a LEO is to put people in jail and write citations and yes that includes “poor people.” If he had a revelation while talking with his former single mother, now wife, and had a problem with this he should have quit a long time ago, but he didn’t.
He falsified tickets. None of that nonsense he talked about had anything to do with that.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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i believe the insanely disproportionate amount of citizens incarcerated would disagree with you
Are we locking up an insane number of people for no reason? Or do we have an insane number of people that can’t behave in a moderately civil manner?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:24 am to i am dan
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Yeah, if they wrote a thousand tickets to people doing 67 in a 65, that would be different.
This man gets it.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:50 am to Meauxjeaux
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Are we locking up an insane number of people for no reason? Or do we have an insane number of people that can’t behave in a moderately civil manner?
How is it that people can mistrust government in all aspect but law enforcement.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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trying to figure out the most efficient way to get pi cases
Spread vegetable oil all over aisle 13 at Wal-Marks.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:25 am to Meauxjeaux
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Or do we have an insane number of people that can’t behave in a moderately civil manner?
we don't live in a police state. the US, somehow, has 50x the criminals of other similar countries
your argument is literally a tautology. that's exactly the argument authoritarians rely on the plebs using to justify over-criminalization
"they deserved it", just like rape victims
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Glad this guy fessed up. Speeding tickets in Louisiana are just a revenue generating scam. It is, in effect, a tax to drive. There is no safety benefit to writing all of these tickets, purely money.
In addition, this affects our insurance premiums. The more traffic violations a state has affects the premiums paid by the insurance base.
Typical Louisiana, keep shooting yourself in the foot.
In addition, this affects our insurance premiums. The more traffic violations a state has affects the premiums paid by the insurance base.
Typical Louisiana, keep shooting yourself in the foot.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:07 am to Dire Wolf
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How is it that people can mistrust government in all aspect but law enforcement.
I mistrust plenty of law enforcement.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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we don't live in a police state. the US, somehow, has 50x the criminals of other similar countries
your argument is literally a tautology. that's exactly the argument authoritarians rely on the plebs using to justify over-criminalization
Since this thread is primarily about speeding tickets, I'll keep the examples close to there.
Have you driven in other countries? I have.
It is very typical in a relatively modern European country suburban-ish area to drive on a 3 lane road with traffic going 4 cars wide. Speeds are what people decide they are... it's quite the free-for-all.
Would you like those characteristics driving around BR? Probably not...
How did they (European country I'm discussing) get there? Practically zero enforcement.
If there were a cop sitting there busting people driving half in their lane and half on the shoulder, he could write 1,000 tickets a day. Is that quota building?
At some point you have to decide to enforce laws or not. Where do you choose to stop?
BTW, just this morning I passed 2 road cops running radar on a semi-residential street of 25mph.. I was going 30, maybe 29, maybe 31. Waved as I went by and they waved back.
(for the record, I had my seat belt on and my inspection sticker is up to date :) )
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:25 am to Meauxjeaux
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At some point you have to decide to enforce laws or not
that's a false choice. you can decrease the number of laws, which has been my argument since page 1
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:25 am to Meauxjeaux
Also for the record... a few months ago I received a ticket on the Causeway for 80 in the 65.
I have never done 80 on the Causeway, even when speeding up to get around slow traffic to allow the nascar drafters to get by me. I'm a 70-71 cruise control driver on there.
Was I upset? Only because I do not ever do 80. But I have done 82-84 on 70MPH I-12 from time to time.
So I balance this "offense" that I did 80 when I really wasn't with the fact that I do 10-12 over on other roads and didn't get caught.
You have to look at life "in toto", much better that way.
I have never done 80 on the Causeway, even when speeding up to get around slow traffic to allow the nascar drafters to get by me. I'm a 70-71 cruise control driver on there.
Was I upset? Only because I do not ever do 80. But I have done 82-84 on 70MPH I-12 from time to time.
So I balance this "offense" that I did 80 when I really wasn't with the fact that I do 10-12 over on other roads and didn't get caught.
You have to look at life "in toto", much better that way.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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that's a false choice. you can decrease the number of laws, which has been my argument since page 1
Remember, I agreed with you with the caveat that people have to behave more lawfully.
We don't need law #1, #1A and #1B on the books except because people are assholes and will push things.
Sure, get law #1A and #1B off the books. I'm all for it.
Correspondingly, get people to behave within the parameters of law #1.
All problems solved. We saved the world, bro...
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:33 am to Meauxjeaux
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We don't need law #1, #1A and #1B on the books except because people are assholes and will push things.
To be fair, we get laws 1A and 1B bc some lawyer says well the law says you can’t to X, not Y, even though Y is the same violation and was covered in the “spirit” of the original law.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:45 am to brass2mouth
Ya I was referencing my post earlier in the thread where I said..
My overriding theme being, the # of laws means actually zero about us being a "police state".
We have 350MM people. People are the problem, not the laws.
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Someone does a shitty thing and the citizenry demands law #1 to address it. Then another does a slightly altered shitty thing and the citizenry demands law 1A to address that. Then a third does another slightly altered shitty thing and the citizenry demands law 1B to address that.
My overriding theme being, the # of laws means actually zero about us being a "police state".
We have 350MM people. People are the problem, not the laws.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:50 am to Meauxjeaux
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We have 350MM people. People are the problem, not the laws.
That is far too absolute. The answer can lie in both sides.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:59 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I don't have a problem at all with a person laying out the dirty laundry once caught. If it helps expose crooked than I am all for it.
If LEO had a problem with this, they would convict very few people.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:06 pm to Meauxjeaux
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At some point you have to decide to enforce laws or not. Where do you choose to stop?
BTW, just this morning I passed 2 road cops running radar on a semi-residential street of 25mph.. I was going 30, maybe 29, maybe 31. Waved as I went by and they waved back.
There’s a distinct difference in popping someone for going 10-15 over the speed limit because it’s a legitimate safety issue and popping someone for going 1-5 over in order to fill a quota.
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