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Evolution of the American accent
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:20 pm
I was bored so I looked this up, pretty interesting.
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Even the southern accent alone varries between states for the most part, I wonder why. Like what cultural or social differences dictated that diversity to small regions? Also its a tragedy that the old, classy, "Doc Holiday" type of accent is pretty much extinct.
LINK
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The United States began as colonies of Great Britain, but the settlers didn’t trickle across the Atlantic at random. According to Brandeis University Professor David Hackett Fischer in his book Albion’s Seed, there are four primary American accents, which derive from the major migrations from England to the New World in the 17th and 18th centuries.
1. East Anglia to Massachusetts (1620–40). Puritans who fled to the New World to escape religious persecution were, by and large, from the eastern counties of England. To this day, in remote parts of East Anglia, there are rural folk who speak in what is sometimes referred to as the “Norfolk whine.” When they came to New England, that accent came along with them. You may recall the TV commercials where an old fellow says, “Pepperidge Fahm remembahs…” That’s the Norfolk whine.
2. South and West of England to Virginia (1642–75). Immigrants who settled in the colony of Virginia tended to be wealthy Cavaliers (that is, loyal to the King) who came to the New World to become planters. Many elements of their accent can still be heard in rural Virginia, such as their penchant for elongated vowels—stretching you into “yeew,” and shortened consonants—”ax” for ask, and “dis” and “dat” for this and that.
3. North Midlands to Pennsylvania and Delaware (1675–1725). In another flight to escape religious persecution, Quakers, largely from the northern and middle parts of England, also settled in the New World. Their speech patterns, characterized by shorter vowel sounds—a short “a” for dance, not the Yankee and East Anglian “dahnce,” or the South England and Virginia “day-ence”—formed the basis for the flat Midwestern American accent we hear today, which has since been adopted as the standard American “non-regional” accent spoken by most newscasters.
4. Borderlands to the Backcountry (1715–75). The so-called “Scotch-Irish” fled their poverty-stricken homeland of northern England and southern Scotland, first to northern Ireland and then to America’s mid-Atlantic coast. These new arrivals were considered uncultured and unruly and didn’t mix well with the established settlers, so most kept going to settle in the backcountry of the Appalachian Mountains. Their distinctive accent can still be heard in many southern regions: “far” for fire, and “winder” for window. The Borderlands accent gave rise to the twangy “country” accent heard in poorer parts of the South—as opposed to the south-of-England “Southern gentleman” drawl heard in more affluent regions. Think Yosemite Sam for the former and Foghorn Leghorn for the latter.
Even the southern accent alone varries between states for the most part, I wonder why. Like what cultural or social differences dictated that diversity to small regions? Also its a tragedy that the old, classy, "Doc Holiday" type of accent is pretty much extinct.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:25 pm to jcolding41
what happened to the boolegger/1940s baseball announcer accent?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:27 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
The general American accent took over. I dont understand why people hate having an accent, it adds to peoples character instead of being bland.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:28 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
how about the 1920s gangster accent -
look, see, you're not gonna squeal to the coppers, see
look, see, you're not gonna squeal to the coppers, see
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:30 pm to jcolding41
Fascinating thread.
Another tidbit, you’ll find similar accents in many port cities.
New York, Boston, and New Orleans have several dialectical similarities due to all 3 being major port cities
Another tidbit, you’ll find similar accents in many port cities.
New York, Boston, and New Orleans have several dialectical similarities due to all 3 being major port cities
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:34 pm to jcolding41
quote:
there are four primary American accents
1. Yankee
2. Redneck
3. African American
4. New Orleans
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:36 pm to jcolding41
quote:Ha! You won't fool me. I saw the thread saying Delaware is a hoax for LLCs. Bring that crap somewhere else.
Delaware
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:39 pm to East Coast Band
You left off midwestern. Yankee is northeast
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:42 pm to kingbob
quote:
Yankee is
Everything outside the states that formed the Confederacy.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:49 pm to SCLibertarian
Yessir, and that includes California.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:50 pm to jcolding41
The American accent gets more complicated with the advent of mass media, but American English has some unique features that differentiate it from other forms of English. The main feature is the high degree of vowel mergers along with unique pronunciations of the same word within the same dialect, the swallowing of certain constants, and the sheer number of loanwords. You also see a great degree of functional shift in American English. In general, one reason why the US has such a rich literary tradition is the ease with which loanwords can be incorporated into speech.
After mass media, I’d argue that some of these regional variations have become closer to a standardized version. What I mean to suggest is that the difference between dialects in the US is relatively small in comparison to the UK especially, as all US dialects are generally mutually intelligible, as the standardization process through mass media developed mutually with other centralization projects, like the development of the Interstate system and public education.
After mass media, I’d argue that some of these regional variations have become closer to a standardized version. What I mean to suggest is that the difference between dialects in the US is relatively small in comparison to the UK especially, as all US dialects are generally mutually intelligible, as the standardization process through mass media developed mutually with other centralization projects, like the development of the Interstate system and public education.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:56 pm to jcolding41
Seems like I remember hearing, reading, or maybe watching something that said the accents in Mew England are closer to the British accent of the 17th and 18th century than the current British accent. I can’t remember the details but what we recognize as a British accent is that old relatively speaking if I remember correctly.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:05 pm to jcolding41
There are people on the Outer Banks in North Carolina that still speak with an English Accent LINK
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:07 pm to Darth_Vader
That's interesting. The Brits probably tried to distance themselves from the rest of the commonwealth as more superior and that's one way to do it.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:16 pm to jcolding41
What did British and Americans sound like during the revolution?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:23 pm to jcolding41
I know that the modern American accent is closer to what British people sounded like in the 18th century than their current accent.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:41 pm to Shiftyplus1
No. No it's not. Not even close
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:44 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
what happened to the boolegger/1940s baseball announcer accent?
Great point. The Boardwalk Empire accent of the 20's is only 100 years ago and was the bees knees, seeee. It needs to make a comeback.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:48 pm to Darth_Vader
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