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re: Even the Sea groans with fatigue; the Fall of the Cruise ship industry

Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Prodigal Son
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Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:02 pm to
Casinos on the coast have also begun giving away cruises, so I suspect a good portion of the undesirables come from there.
Posted by crimsonuatide
Member since Jul 2017
2116 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:02 pm to
That's our tax dollars, and/or jobs(DEI) paying their way.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9565 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:10 pm to
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Add in all you can drink alcohol and it becomes an issue.


Sun, pool, and a shitload of women and alcohol is a dangerous combination…
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17992 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:10 pm to
I’m a seasoned cruiser. The wife and I have been cruising since 1993 when we got married. We generally take one big cruise per year and pay for first class accommodations. We cruise exclusively on Royal Caribbean and have reached Diamond plus loyalty status.

Our cruises are amazing vacations where we get the best service one can imagine. We also get major perks like having our own concierge who makes sure we have a great experience. We are invited to all kinds of private events such as dinner at the chef’s table and tours of off limits places on the ship. We’ve toured the bridge and met the captain on
occasions. We also have a private lounge that has free cocktails and appetizers before each dinner. We get premium seating at dinner and at the shows.

Bottom line is that you get what you pay for. If you book a $400 cruise, you will have a $400 cruise experience.

Our next cruise is Portugal and Spain to the Canary islands and crossing the Atlantic back to our home port. We’ve crossed the Atlantic twice. Cruised Alaska. Crossed part of the pacific from Hawaii to Vancouver. Lots of Caribbean adventures.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27341 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:10 pm to
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I have a love-hate relationship with cruises. On one hand, they are an extremely efficient way to see other countries. But the cruise lines offer heavily discounted rates that undesirables have been able to hack.

So, you could have people who paid $1000 per person on the same ship as people who pay, say $400 per person. The rooms might be nicer, but they have access to the same ship. Add in all you can drink alcohol and it becomes an issue.


You are not wrong -- it's hard to weed out the possibility of trash on cruises.

One option is to look for cruise lines that offer a ship within a ship concept (ie, first class) where you would pay more, but you'd have a private area for just the first class passengers where his ghetto trash won't be.

NCL: The Haven
Princess: Sanctuary Collection
MSC: Yacht Club
Celebrity: The Retreat

Granted these options will all be a good chunk of change more than the regular ocean fare per person say for example in a standard balcony room, but it won't be near as pricy as Regent, Silversea, or Explora pricing as those are only higher end lines.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:11 pm to
MSC Yacht Club is still great.

My favorite perk is when swipe your room key on the elevator, and it bypasses all of the floors and people in steerage who are calling for the elevator
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:11 pm to
Whites only cruises should be a thing.
Posted by HEtiger
Member since May 2008
1646 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:13 pm to
USAID and NGO dollars have found there way into pockets of society and the demographics have been living large.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:14 pm to
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Carnival is the Spirit Airlines of the sea. Higher-end cruises do not have those issues.


This.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57886 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:18 pm to
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How did the Cruise line industry get here?


It's a bit like the change in online gaming. About 15 years ago the MMO industry began moving from strictly a subscription model to free-to-play model with microtransactions. They found that they could make more money by charging low prices for mainly cosmetic and QoL things (larger backpacks, weapon skins, etc).

Cruise ships over the last 15-20 years have done something similar. They've made bigger ships with lots more amenities, but they nickel and dime access to those amenities (and then double-down on that by trying to up-sell you on those same amenities) which is a far cry from the truly "all inclusive" packages of yesteryear. Along with that, they've moved away from things like "formal night" events where more reserved, formal attire was the standard to most events being casual.

You can get an interior room for a 5-day cruise out of New Orleans to the western Caribbean for ~$425 per person. By appealing to the larger masses of poor and uncultured, they gain access to a larger revenue stream. What they have yet to realize though is that once the types who will fight over the ship being out of chicken nuggets become indelibly associated with "cruise ships" (or at least certain lines), the revenue will take a hit as all but the trashiest begin avoiding it.
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
924 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:18 pm to
HR and hiring managers in every major company and government entity in the country have prioritized hiring black people, meaning a good amount of the well paying middle class and upper middle class level jobs are held by blacks now, whether deserved or not.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22904 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:21 pm to
You don't see this on the high end cruise lines.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:26 pm to
The cruise industry is in serious decline. Covid, the shite cruise, and Netflix rape shows pointed out a dirty secret in that they are lawless cess pools of bacteria, viruses and diseases that are spread everywhere which has the older and wealthier people abandoning them as well. They could have fixed all this in the 80s but $$$$$.

My mother n law recently took the expensive Alaska cruise again and spent about 50-70k for her and a friend. She said the food was cheap and disgusting and it was 50 bucks a head to upgrade to food that was standard on her last trip. Both she and her friend caught the flu from this trip and she now has the flu and pneumonia and lost 7 pounds from an all you can get cruise and may die. frick them
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27341 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Whites only cruises should be a thing.


Or make a new cruise line that caters to this element specifically.

Soul Sail from Wakanda to the Waves.
Never departs or arrives on time, specializes in wings, weaves, twerk offs, and purple drank. Special discounted rates for: fatherless families, large family reunions, church groups, newly released from jail on bond, and last sail before jail celebrations. No payment down, interest free financing on up to 96 month payment plans. Exclusive 10% additional off for all Altima and Sentra drivers.

You can't ban them from existing cruise lines, but you could create one that they couldn't resist.
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:34 pm to
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My mother n law recently took the expensive Alaska cruise again and spent about 50-70k for her and a friend.


Holy crap, I guess I didn't realize just how poor I was. 50k for a cruise?!?!
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53911 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:42 pm to
White people and foreigners are a bad mix
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129222 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:46 pm to
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And the reason I don't fly cheap airlines anymore.


Been on a Delta flight from MSY to ATL? It aint much better than Spirit
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