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re: EV owners are going to pay the piper in TX.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:49 pm to Volvagia
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:49 pm to Volvagia
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Don’t think the average MPG is at 30 though.
Not sure about others but I used 30mpg b/c it makes the math easy to do in my head.
the article gives the average amount of gas tax paid by Texans at just $88 per year.
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the average Texas driver burned through ~55 million BTUs of motor gasoline in 2018, according to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration. That’s equal to about 440 gallons of gas. At $0.20 per gallon, the standard car owner in Texas is paying just $88 per year in gas taxes
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:52 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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$200 is equivalent to 1,000 gallons of gas tax a year. 83 gallons of gas per month doesn’t seem all that punitive.
Average driver in Texas uses less than half of that (440 gallons) per year so yeah it's absolutely punitive.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:53 pm to LegendInMyMind
I’m betting many states follow this action and then effectively double down on their taxation by legislating fees to be added/collected from public chargers. And it really wouldn’t surprise me to eventually see fees added to home electricity bills for those with chargers installed.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:09 pm to RTRinTampa
All taxes suck. All of em.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:10 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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meh. seems reasonable
Especially since they tend to be heavier that ICE vehicles.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:11 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Yeah, spending an hour at a charging station sounds way better.
Anyone who still believes this is operating on antiquated information
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:13 pm to RTRinTampa
EV Owners = RINO shatshows supporting DeSantis on Polibaord. Maybe worse.
By the way, somebody has to pay to fill the potholes.
By the way, somebody has to pay to fill the potholes.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:17 pm to RTRinTampa
As a conservative I hate taxation and this is just a tax. I am not a fan of all the EV hype and can't see myself ever owning one, but I do not support a tax, which I agree is punitive
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:21 pm to novabill
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but I do not support a tax, which I agree is punitive
But do you support a taxation which is currently selectively applied to only those driving ICE vehicles? Fairness demands EV’s start contributing in some fashion.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:28 pm to novabill
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As a conservative I hate taxation and this is just a tax. I am not a fan of all the EV hype and can't see myself ever owning one, but I do not support a tax, which I agree is punitive
Well regardless of whether or not you hate it, you do pay gasoline taxes which I don't on my Lightning. I'm not going to get into what the gas tax or the new EV tax pays for. But it pays for something. Anyway, trust Texas. The right people are in charge.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:29 pm to TomJoadGhost
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Wow, a Republican raising taxes?
It’s technically a fee.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:47 pm to Dr RC
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Average driver in Texas uses less than half of that (440 gallons) per year so yeah it's absolutely punitive.
Not sure where you got that number.
According to the EIA Texas uses about 38.2 million gallons of gas a day with around 23.7 million licensed drivers that would be almost 600 gallons a year. That’s an across the board average. Take out the blue hairs who likely drive way less and then also take into account electric vehicle drivers are younger and more mobile in general and I think it’s about right.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:51 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
I think most people average around 10-12k miles per year driving.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:02 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:Not when they’re charging for hours on end…
In South Carolina I think the fee is an extra $250 for an EV. State not getting gas taxes from them but they put the same wear and tear on the road.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:09 pm to fallguy_1978
Texans on average are 16,171 miles per year.
At around a 20 mph average that’s 800 gallons of fuel a year. Again, averages that would need to be adjusted for age and demographics of electric car drivers which puts it pretty close to the 1000 gallon mark.
At around a 20 mph average that’s 800 gallons of fuel a year. Again, averages that would need to be adjusted for age and demographics of electric car drivers which puts it pretty close to the 1000 gallon mark.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:09 pm to RTRinTampa
Cheering on more taxes because of "fairness" is lame. Kudos to anyone who can skirt gov theft.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:11 pm to Cymry Teigr
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But do you support a taxation which is currently selectively applied to only those driving ICE vehicles? Fairness demands EV’s start contributing in some fashion.
Fair?
You sound like a liberal
Taxation is bad, just because it levied against those you don't like doesn't make it good
Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:14 pm to RTRinTampa
Make the annual fee weight dependent to offset the damage done to roadways.
Surely some bean counters can do the math.
Surely some bean counters can do the math.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:15 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Anyway, trust Texas. The right people are in charge.
Trust those forcing taxation?
I think not.
Texas is an oil state and I am sure that they would love to tax EVs out of existence.
Also I can see why conservatives would oppose EVs, especially since the libs love them. But I hate more taxation which is a liberal position as well.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:16 pm to novabill
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You sound like a liberal
Taxation is bad, just because it levied against those you don't like doesn't make it good
If they don't have to pay than nobody else should either and TX should abolish the gas tax.
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