- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Europe-US electricity converter question - will these appliances work?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:57 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:57 am
I mostly know the difference between an "adapter" and a "converter". The adapter just adapts the plug and puts, for example, UK's 220v 50hz power straight through. Adapters are suitable for dual-voltage devices, like a charger brick or anything that says 110/220 50/60hz on it.
I know that a converter steps the voltage down from 220 to 110, but the frequency remains the same at 50hz, correct? And this is the reason most (all?) single-voltage electronic devices will not work, right? Converters work for electric devices that don't care too much about the frequency, like heating elements and motors, yes?
Is it possible that some electronic devices will work with a converter even though they are not dual-voltage? If not, would it just not turn on, or would it trip the fuse or blow the f up?
I know that a converter steps the voltage down from 220 to 110, but the frequency remains the same at 50hz, correct? And this is the reason most (all?) single-voltage electronic devices will not work, right? Converters work for electric devices that don't care too much about the frequency, like heating elements and motors, yes?
Is it possible that some electronic devices will work with a converter even though they are not dual-voltage? If not, would it just not turn on, or would it trip the fuse or blow the f up?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:58 am to Korkstand
It worked when I was in Europe. I was kinda shocked.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:59 am to Paul Allen
quote:
It worked when I was in Europe. I was kinda shocked.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:00 pm to Korkstand
I was going to provide a real answer, but now I'm trying to crack the code with the random bolding.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:00 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
Fleshlight works
Wait, those take electricity?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:01 pm to DarthRebel
quote:
Wait, those take electricity?
Only if you have a real man's peen
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:01 pm to Displaced
quote:It's not random, just emphasizing the difference between electric and electronic devices. Electric devices should work with converted 110/50hz power, whereas electronic devices probably won't. At least that's what I think.
I was going to provide a real answer, but now I'm trying to crack the code with the random bolding.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:09 pm to Korkstand
An AC adapter(converter) for my laptop is listed as
Input = 100 - 240 VAC 50-60HZ
Output = 20VDC
I have to use another adapter because the plug socket configuration is different in Europe, but in China or Mexico the US configuration will work without another adapter.
Input = 100 - 240 VAC 50-60HZ
Output = 20VDC
I have to use another adapter because the plug socket configuration is different in Europe, but in China or Mexico the US configuration will work without another adapter.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:17 pm to ultratiger89
quote:Right, that is a dual-voltage device. It will work in the US or Europe with just a plain adapter for the socket.
An AC adapter(converter) for my laptop is listed as
Input = 100 - 240 VAC 50-60HZ
Output = 20VDC
My question is about US devices that are NOT dual-voltage. In other words, the device only says 110/60hz on it. For example, my wife's curling iron says 110/60hz. If it just said 110v, then I believe it would work in Europe with a converter that steps down from 220 to 110. However, since it says 60hz (and it has electronics and a display), it will NOT work in Europe even with a converter.
If it was just a plain curler with a switch and heating element, it would work with the stepped-down voltage at 50hz. But since the electronics in it require 60hz, I don't think it will work. Can anyone verify?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:53 pm to Korkstand
quote:
My question is about US devices that are NOT dual-voltage. In other words, the device only says 110/60hz on it. For example, my wife's curling iron says 110/60hz. If it just said 110v, then I believe it would work in Europe with a converter that steps down from 220 to 110. However, since it says 60hz (and it has electronics and a display), it will NOT work in Europe even with a converter.
Don't plug in a 110 device with just an adapter you will fry it. If it is not dual voltage you need a converter. When I was stationed in Germany a guy in the barracks got his household goods and used an adapter on his tv that was 110 and he fried it. I say again if the device is not dual voltage do not use an adapter use a power converter.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:58 pm to stelly1025
quote:
Don't plug in a 110 device with just an adapter you will fry it. If it is not dual voltage you need a converter. When I was stationed in Germany a guy in the barracks got his household goods and used an adapter on his tv that was 110 and he fried it. I say again if the device is not dusl voltage do not use an adapter use a converter.
I understand that. But I believe that even with a voltage converter, many (all?) single-voltage electronic devices still will not work.
For example, a simple curling iron with a switch that simply sends power to a heating element WILL work at 50hz, but a curling iron with electronics (display, temp control, timers, etc) will NOT work at 50hz. Can anyone verify?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 1:09 pm to Korkstand
quote:
I understand that. But I believe that even with a voltage converter, many (all?) single-voltage electronic devices still will not work.
Yes they will now you have to make sure what you have plugged in doesn't use more watts than what your converter is capable of running.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 1:12 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Electric devices should work with converted 110/50hz power, whereas electronic devices probably won't. At least that's what I think.
Most things can "work" at 50 or 60hz. It becomes an issue if everything is designed to operate properly with the frequency change. Europe doesn't do 110 50hz. They only do 200-220V 50Hz.
Solid state electronics are typically very tolerant of input frequency variances because they are already converting the frequency within itself. As the input frequency declines, if i remember right, the RMS current draw will increase. No big deal if all the conductors are designed properly. if not, it could overheat and fry. Typically DC electronics with a quality power supply are not going to care about 50 or 60Hz.
Motors and resistance elements will always "work" at the varying frequencies but the output ratings will be impacted. They may not output as much with the change or not be capable of putting out as much.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 1/9/20 at 1:14 pm to Korkstand
Generally almost everything electronic that is 110V will work with a converter. In my experience, electronic devices like a DVD player will work even with the different frequency. A digital clock radio will work, but the time will not sync long term. The motored electric devices are where the problems supposedly exist. Motors to a vacuum or a blender supposedly wear faster if the frequency is incorrect. Never really tried one, but I tried getting an American Vitamix in Europe, but I would void my warranty if I connected it to a converter, (I assume it would short if directly connected to 220V).
Posted on 1/9/20 at 1:18 pm to notsince98
Also worth mentioning some devices require a surge of power to start, typically anything with a motor. If that’s the case depending on the equipment you’re trying to use you may need a converter with 2-3x the wattage listed on your device. This is why I currently have my 65” tv on a voltage converter but sold the washer and dryer, the sudden draw on power would wreck a euro apartments wiring.
Electronics like televisions, video game systems etc don’t need the extra wattage. And some things that are labeled as single voltage, if you pop open the box and look at the actua power supply you’ll see they’re dual
Electronics like televisions, video game systems etc don’t need the extra wattage. And some things that are labeled as single voltage, if you pop open the box and look at the actua power supply you’ll see they’re dual
Posted on 1/9/20 at 1:48 pm to Korkstand
If it does charge through USB, leave it at home.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 2:40 pm to DarthRebel
quote:
Wait, those take electricity?
If you do it right you can feed electricity back in to the grid.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News