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re: EPA claims no knowledge of Mayor Broome’s stormwater utility fee NDA

Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7543 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:02 pm to
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He is up for reelection... For the record, I like Garrett


I sure wasn’t impressed with his inaction during the theft of the 2020 election.

Dude was quiet as a mouse and turned his back on Trump like all the other RINOs.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6252 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:02 pm to
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Or Graves is being dishonest.



I actually think Graves was pushing back on the feds apparent requirement for an NDA and a rushed schedule, in such a way to help BR and the administration. Instead, he discovered the story being fronted doesn't align with what the EPA is telling him.

Now it is time for local media to dig. There should be public information requests on all of this and get people on record.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:03 pm to
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What is the plausible explanation for why the EPA would require an NDA preventing local officials from discussing the nature of the solution with their local constituents?


Per the article linked above:

quote:

We’re told the city parish is under the threat of a federal consent decree. And this proposed fee is a chance to keep stormwater management in local control.

With the federal consent decree, the federal government would come in, they would tell you what kind of plan you have to implement. They would tell you pretty much how much money you’d have to borrow to implement that plan. The federal government would be in charge, and we would just be following orders under a federal consent decree,” said Metro Councilwoman Laurie Adams, District 11.


The mayor's office claims they signed an NDA with the DOJ and EPA and can not discuss the terms of the dissent decree, but demand $42 million to fix the stormwater issues. The also claimed that the vote must be held 10/26 because of reasons they can't discuss per the NDA.

At the stormwater meetings, the mayor's office refuse to answer any questions as to how long this stormwater fee is to be in effect. They just say "it will be on your property tax bill".

The parish attorney's office have since stated, that by law, no fee's can be attached to one's property tax bill without approval from the legislature.

Looks like Broome was trying to quickly launder some money for her office.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127384 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:03 pm to
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I sure wasn’t impressed with his inaction during the theft of the 2020 election. Dude was quiet as a mouse and turned his back on Trump like all the other RINOs.

He was one of the members of Congress who voted against certifying the election.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:05 pm to
From my councilmen's facebook page:

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"Taxation without representation!" This is the cry from many residents across the parish regarding Mayor Broome's proposed Stormwater Utility Fee. While we can all agree that addressing stormwater maintenance is extremely important we also must ensure that the plan to do so is 1) legal and 2) well thought out and thoroughly vetted. Unfortunately this plan fails both of these tests.

A key component of the administrations plan is that the Stormwater Utility "Fee" will be on your property tax bill. This is advantagous for two reasons:
1) It ensures that collection costs will be as low as possibe.
2) Remittance will be high as property owners will have to pay or face liens on their private property.
It is now clear that the enacting legislation for this proposal does not authorize the City Parish to place this "fee" on your property tax bill. The Parish Attorney's Office advises that the City Parish will need to go back to the legislature to seek approval for this in the next legislative session.

It is critically important that members of the Council be able to trust that the information they receive from the Mayor's office is thorough and well thought out. To learn that a central piece of this plan with significant cost and remittance implications does not have legislative approval is an grave disservice to the public trust.

To be clear, I will be voting no on this proposal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421838 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:06 pm to
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WAFB has confirmed that everyone in the administration involved in the negotiations with the DOJ and the EPA, has had to sign a non-disclosure agreement.


With whom?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26070 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:06 pm to
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A 3rd option is the mayor's office didn't have to sign an NDA with the EPA, but had to with whichever company is helping plan or will develop this system.

That isn't "having" to sign an NDA. That is choosing to do so because you don't want to actually face the public.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421838 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:06 pm to
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You should probably give up the whole contrarian to be contrarian shtick, because you keep getting bodied every time you try it

What the frick are you talking about?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11475 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:07 pm to
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WAFB has confirmed that everyone in the administration involved in the negotiations with the DOJ and the EPA, has had to sign a non-disclosure agreement.


This could mean the mayor made everyone in their (mayor's) office sign one.

It may just mean the mayor wanted her people quiet.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6820 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:08 pm to
Lie about a non-existent NDA and looming deadline to facilitate shoving new taxes down your throat in an emergency no vote allowed.... sounds like some NOLA or Shitcago level corruption.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421838 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:08 pm to
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That isn't "having" to sign an NDA. That is choosing to do so because you don't want to actually face the public.

Someone is lying/telling a half truth.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:08 pm to
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With whom?


I don't think WAFB has EPA and DOJ on speed dial. Common sense would say the mayor's office.

To lend credence to that, Councilmen Hudson was on Brian Haldane's show earlier this week talking about this. He stated that the people involved (mayor's office) had an NDA with the DOJ/EPA and could not get the specifics of the consent decree because of this.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 3:09 pm
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:08 pm to
You earlier coming up with two BS scenarios for why the Mayor and her team might be innocent is I believe what he is talking about.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
4562 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:09 pm to
I like him even more then
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421838 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:10 pm to
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You earlier coming up with two BS scenarios for why the Mayor and her team might be innocent

"Innocent"
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98516 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:11 pm to
Let's be clear about one thing...

I don't really give a watery shite over whether there is, or isn't, an NDA.

The mere fact that these fricking retards were going to jam through a goddamned property tax on EBR property owners and not tell them a fricking thing about the specifics of why it was required, what it was supposed to do or how long it would be in place alone is enough of a reason to fricking kick every one of their worthless asses to the curb.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 3:12 pm
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:12 pm to
All evidence to the contrary??
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26070 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:12 pm to
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Someone is lying/telling a half truth.

Its pretty transparently the Mayor's office.

Sure, people involved "had" to sign an NDA, because she wanted them to have to.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421838 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:13 pm to
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The mere fact that these fricking retards were going to jam through a goddamned property tax on EBR property owners and not tell them a fricking thing about the specifics of why it was required, what it was supposed to do or how long it would be in place alone is enough of a reason to fricking kick every one of their worthless asses to the curb.

If this is because of the feds pushing it, there are so many questions, namely, how long has this been looming while the mayor's office ignored it? Why is the Biden EPA/DOJ pushing so hard instead of working collaboratively?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421838 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:15 pm to
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Sure, people involved "had" to sign an NDA, because she wanted them to have to.

See this is a 4th option that would make Graves a liar, still. Either these NDAs exist or they don't. He says they don't.
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