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re: Engineering peeps, is there a negative perception towards a B.A. vs a B.S degree?

Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:54 am to
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:54 am to
Engineer Bachelor’s of Art maybe smart

Engineer Bachelor’s of Science are smart
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:56 am to
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Engineer Bachelor’s of Science are smart


thanks baw
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:56 am to
BA is unaccredited and basically guaranteed to be less thorough and definitely looked at as significantly less.

Do a BS If you want an actual engineering degree.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 10:04 am
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:56 am to
Afro?
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:57 am to
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Afro?


yup
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:58 am to
If you're going into a STEM based field, always go with a BS instead of a BA. I did this in Psych and am grateful for the additional statistics, research methods, etc. courses I took in a BS vs a BA.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:59 am to
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I'm a pipeline engineer and the GIS team I work with plays a vital role. I have never questioned our GIS guys whether they had a BA or BS.
I know when I was at Tulane perusing a BS in Geology with minor in Engineering Science. (I think they’ve since eliminated the Geo Dept.) Any enrolled undergrad student could take coursework/electives and receive a GIS Cert. never needing to get their BS
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:59 am to
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So it's probably more about practicality than it is perception


Not at all. There are significant differences in the degrees. You know the quality and training you are getting in a hire with a BS. A BA is much more open and relies heavily on the student to make decisions on what they should take.

A BA can be solid, but many companies look at it as the person taking the easier and less trained route.

You can get a job with it, sure, but it will be looked at negatively most of the time.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:03 am to
Mine is an honorary degree from years of fieldwork.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:03 am to
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Mine is an honorary degree from years of fieldwork.


working man's PhD?
Posted by SaintTiger80
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:07 am to
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As for the license, are you saying the majority of degreed engineers that don't have a PE can't be engineers?


Technically, you shouldn’t claim to be an engineer if you are not licensed.

It would be like someone finishing medical school and calling themselves doctor without being licensed.

Now, plenty of engineering jobs don’t require a license, only a degree. So doesn’t really matter in some cases.
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:07 am to
As others have said, BA’s work for some disciplines but not all. They are less rigorous in general and allow more broad learning.

It really depends on the job you are looking for l, but I do have two candidates I am deciding from and one is a BA and the other is a BS with all other things equal, I would almost always hire the BS student because of rigor.

Again, is it some scarlet letter? No, but it will not open other doors for you, while slightly closing some.

That said, it is very field dependent and GIS being such a new field lends itself to it not being as big of an issue.

I still always recommend the BS unless there is a reason you are unable to do it.
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:09 am to
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Technically, you shouldn’t claim to be an engineer if you are not licensed.


Wrong. You are an engineer if you are from an accredited engineering program. You are not a professional engineer if you are unlicensed. We are not stupid like architects saying that you are not an architect unless you pass some arbitrarily set requirements.

Professional engineers is a much more legitimate process but some disciplines don’t have a PE.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:09 am to
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Technically, you shouldn’t claim to be an engineer if you are not licensed.



not true, unless there have been recent changes, you can work under a license, I know engineers for Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney that are approaching retirement that never bothered to get a PE, personally I would have had to have it
Posted by CunningLinguist
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:20 am to
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I know engineers for Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney that are approaching retirement that never bothered to get a PE


I can attest this is true. Any with a PE at a LM or RTX are going to be your principal engineers or Chief Engineers.

As for a BA, that’d get you into a fake engineering field like Quality Engineering.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:33 am to
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I'm a GIS Analyst with a engineering firm in Tampa.


yall looking to sell, I'm always looking for acquisitions.
Posted by Jon A thon
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:04 pm to
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Mud engineer, drilling engineer, mwd engineer


But it's also known that this doesn't imply an actual engineering role. It's like saying custodial engineer. Doesn't mean your janitor has a degree. Not to diminish those roles, they can get quite technical and many do have engineering or technical degrees. But no one thinks of them as an "engineer".

The engineers at operators are the actual Drilling/Completion/Production/etc. engineers and at service companies it's the usually the design engineers and to a lesser extent field engineers. Field engineers rarely go through the PE process as it's just not needed.

As far as the OP, I actually know 2 guys who I always thought had engineering degrees. Guys that nerd out on the most technical stuff. Found out later, they both took very strange paths that led them to being a technical point of contact for troubleshooting field issues and such, then ultimately managers of the technical development teams. And they don't have engineering degrees. They still don't do the technical work themselves, but they have such a good understanding that they manage developments on the financial and personnel side. So it's certainly possible to get a lot out of a degree that's not a BS. But it's rare.
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:10 pm to
It's probably borne out of how federal jobs are listed. They used to require a BS as opposed to a BA for some roles 20 years ago. Considering the kind of crap you can get a BS in, it makes about as much sense as FedGov does.
Posted by armytiger96
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Again, I'm not an engineer, I just work with a lot of them. The only reason I'm asking is because someone I work with felt the need to kill any concerns I had about pursuing a B.A., and I was confused.


I am assuming this was brought up b/c the BA is a perceived easier curriculum?

In the short term it probably wouldn't matter since you already have the job. However, from a long term overall educational experience in my opinion the BS would probably be better. It likely won't make a huge difference in terms compensation but I'm firm believer that you will gain more as person from taking the BS curriculum over BA based on what's typically required from those classes b/c those classes will help better develop intangible characteristics required for your career path.

In my opinion you should always challenge yourself with the more difficult path.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Kind of baffled at that, but made me wonder if there's this perception in the engineering world that a B.S. is more useful/desirable than a B.A., hard science and math over humanities and the arts.



Honestly I am not sure what the B.A. would do for you over what you have now.

If you got a B.S. in say civil engineering, or a credential in land surveying, I'd say that would open more doors for you.
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