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re: Engineering or construction??
Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:45 pm to AUCE05
Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:45 pm to AUCE05
I used to work 60 hour weeks on road /drainage/water reconstruction projects. In the summer I’d drink 1.5 gal of water and piss once. I’d also drink pedialyte while my buddies with desk jobs went out weeknights and drank beer . AUCE05 is correct it is not easy work
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:46 pm to MAUCKjersey1
Traitor
Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:49 pm to fkmonark25
Switched over to full pm/cm and have had no regrets.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:53 pm to k wilk
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GulfCoastPoke is right. As one who has been on the CM side, I feel like 2-3 years in the construction field should be a prerequisite for engineers and architects to get their license. I can't tell you how many times I have seen a design that looks great on paper but can't actually be built.
That is very true. Conversely, there are a pretty high percentage of contractors out there, particularly concrete contractors, that don't know WTF they're doing and need their hand held the entire job. I'm talking real chit work. This last group couldn't set an anchor bolt in the right place if their life depended on it. Then bitched about drilling through rebar when I switched to post installed anchors.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:33 pm to fkmonark25
Not as sure about engineering salaries but I can tell you about $ for construction in ATL. If you’re any kind of decent these days and you have 7-10 yrs experience you’ll be making $100k-$135k before bonuses, vehicle allowance, etc. More senior guys that make VP and above status, run divisions, etc will get up into the $200k+ range before large bonuses are handed out...mid-size GC I used to work for which is now a much larger company, the senior level guys were bonusing equivalent to their salary and sometimes more.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:05 pm to k wilk
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I can't tell you how many times I have seen a design that looks great on paper but can't actually be built.
Do you have any electrical examples?
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:20 pm to fkmonark25
Engineers make great Project Managers. You will be able to do both.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:27 am to BlackCoffeeKid
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Currently a Civil Eng
Pfff I'd rather clean up the dirty movie theater floor with my tounge. Civil...hahahaha
Posted on 2/2/18 at 4:41 am to k wilk
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can't tell you how many times I have seen a design that looks great on paper but can't actually be built.
I can't tell you how many times that a contractor has told me he couldn't build something because "he has never done it that way before."
It works both ways.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:14 am to philly444
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Kys
He hit a little close to home, did he?
Honestly, you were probably trying to say switching majors allowed you more time for extra curricular activities vs engineering. As opposed to you had trouble with the subject natter itself.
So engineering wasn't too hard in terms of subject comprehension but more time intensive than you wanted your college life to be?
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:35 am to fkmonark25
Engineering. You can always do construction if you want but if you go construction, then you can't go engineering.
A lot of PM roles can only be held by PEs at some of the larger o&g companies. Or so they say.
A lot of PM roles can only be held by PEs at some of the larger o&g companies. Or so they say.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 6:40 am to MAUCKjersey1
That makes me feel better about working on my tools for the last year with my biological eng degree.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 7:32 am to fkmonark25
CM is a great degree, especially if you get on early as an intern with a contractor. The company I work for had us as coordinator interns in the corporate office during semesters, then on our tools in between sessions. Right now I'm working as a planner scheduler, so getting a CM degree doesn't necessarily equal project manager right out of school. Earning potential is equal to or better than engineering pay with experience.
That being said, if I could go back and get an electrical engineering degree, I feel like I would have been more prepared for the career path I chose. I guess there’s benefits to both sides.
That being said, if I could go back and get an electrical engineering degree, I feel like I would have been more prepared for the career path I chose. I guess there’s benefits to both sides.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:45 am to fkmonark25
Complete your engineering degree. You can do either construction/project management if you like or straight up design engineering. I have done both in my career. The engineering degree allows you the choice to change job type should you get burnt out on one or the other
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:46 am to LSUfan4444
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Stop chasing paper and do what makes you happy
Don't know a lot of broke happy people.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:47 am to OGE Pop
Anyone mentioned Engineering Consultation. Make super bucks.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:49 am to AverageJoe26
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Earning potential is equal to or better than engineering pay with experience.
Let's slow this down just a bit. You'll likely make more than engineers, but you'll be working 10+ hour days, weekends, holidays, etc whatever it takes to get a job done. On a per hour basis, you likely aren't going to be making more than an equally experienced engineer. There are of course exceptions.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:56 am to Bustedsack
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Civil...hahahaha
So the other engineering disciplines teach project management in depth along with construction management as a part of core curriculum, and have opportunities to take specialized courses in those two in undergraduate degree program? That is what this thread is about. As someone who benefited from Civil degree, PE and Construction side of civil, you can take whatever widget or gadget you current work on and shove it up your arse.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 8:57 am
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:58 am to LNCHBOX
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Let's slow this down just a bit. You'll likely make more than engineers, but you'll be working 10+ hour days, weekends, holidays, etc whatever it takes to get a job done. On a per hour basis, you likely aren't going to be making more than an equally experienced engineer. There are of course exceptions.
Maybe I am the exception, but I make more than anybody I graduated with no matter the discipline. I work for a contractor and do work for a lot of the mechanicals I graduated with and they brag all the time about their salaries not knowing I make more. In the industrial world, you don't have to work arse ton of hours.
And I work overtime maybe 6 weeks out the year max, well this past year was more but it was an exception not the rule for most years. I 100% agree though to get the engineering degree. The best PMs in our company have a Civil degree, even our sales people have it in our branch.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:04 am to Croacka
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Depends on what industry
This. Right now I'm doing design on a pipeline in ND and Minnesota. The CM's who are in the field 7 days a week, in negative degree weather every day with a 20mph wind are making a bit more than me, but I get to go home every night and I'm warm.
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