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re: Engineering Career Advice - Mechanical, Chemical, Petroleum
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:53 pm to Big_Slim
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:53 pm to Big_Slim
Well no shite you have to get a feel for it, and at least try to understand the boundary conditions.
But, your ChemE degree sure isn’t what those PChem PhD students study. That’s just my point.
They’ve made it easier, and I know it’s got to be hard still, but the point stands.
But, your ChemE degree sure isn’t what those PChem PhD students study. That’s just my point.
They’ve made it easier, and I know it’s got to be hard still, but the point stands.
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:54 pm to Gaston
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Force is the second derivative of position with respect to time
Don't you mean acceleration is the second derivative of the position function, Mr. Scientist?
Scientists uncover useless facts. Engineers make those facts useful and improve the world.
Why would you want to just "know" something? Wouldn't you want to figure out how to use it?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:58 pm to Gaston
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Y’all are much better at multitasking and keeping shite straight and managing projects...
This is pure science fields are not a better than engineering because this is what matters in the real world.
And as far as being stupid...do we need to revisit some of your post pertaining to finance matters? And you aren't stupid but you make dumbass statements all the time.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:58 pm to WildManGoose
F=MA.
Peace though. I’m wrong, I just wish I had an e go erring degree is why I’m lashing out.
Peace though. I’m wrong, I just wish I had an e go erring degree is why I’m lashing out.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:01 pm to Gaston
Let's pretend I didn't know that. You're saying force is equal to mass times the second derivative of the position function? Your original statement was 100% wrong no matter how you try to cover it up.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:04 pm to Gaston
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I just wish I had an e go erring degree is why I’m lashing out.
Trust me, no one needed you to state this.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:05 pm to Gaston
Gaston, you do realize you are a rare breed to have gotten a job in an engineering related field without the degree correct?
Most science based people end up at best in the plant service industries. Not that it's a bad thing but most top out much earlier than an engineer does.
And who gives a shite how to derive the equation (even though we did learn that)? It's fricking pointless in the real world.
You as an engineer serve one purpose, to make the company money. Understanding where an equation came from does not help you achieve that.
And you are just like the nerdy arse design engineers that are 20 years in and wonder why they never get promoted to a manager position. To worried about theory and BS instead of focusing on making money.
Most science based people end up at best in the plant service industries. Not that it's a bad thing but most top out much earlier than an engineer does.
And who gives a shite how to derive the equation (even though we did learn that)? It's fricking pointless in the real world.
You as an engineer serve one purpose, to make the company money. Understanding where an equation came from does not help you achieve that.
And you are just like the nerdy arse design engineers that are 20 years in and wonder why they never get promoted to a manager position. To worried about theory and BS instead of focusing on making money.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:13 pm to LNCHBOX
As long as I’ve read this board it seems every thread about engineering dies with Gaston butthurt and a modern man leather phone case thread the following day.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:16 pm to Gaston
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I work as an ME.
This right here tells you all you need to know about why Gaston's such an insufferable blowhard twat.
He's a failed "physicist" who is playing engineer to keep from starving.
If he was any good as a physicist, he'd be working in physics, no? But he's not, and it burns his arse that the rest of the world doesn't consider him any better than a lowly engineer.
By the way, a-hole, we take physics, and that includes mechanics and electromagnetism, thermodynamics, etc. We take calculus. We've derived every equation we use from first principles, you giant count.
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As long as I’ve read this board it seems every thread about engineering dies with Gaston butthurt and a modern man leather phone case thread the following day.
But I don't want a leather phone case.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:19 pm to Engineer
Yep pretty much. Every time he States something along the lines of physics and true chem majors being better than engineers and usually ends with him getting chastised.
Just like the threads about money used to end with him getting lectured after complaining about making shitty financial decisions.
Just like the threads about money used to end with him getting lectured after complaining about making shitty financial decisions.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:23 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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If he was any good as a physicist, he'd be working in physics, no?
Physicist don't make any money
Why you ask.... because they don't generate any money because they are all theory based just like most pure science based majors. There is a reason almost all of them end up just teaching the subject.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:34 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Nvrmnd.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:14 pm to Gaston
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Maxwell’s equations are the basis for EE, show me class that derives them? Ya can’t. Force is the second derivative of position with respect to time...and the basis for ME...show me the class...Ya can’t. Bernoulli...we can do this all day, literally y’all don’t care and that’s fine. Y’all are much better at multitasking and keeping shite straight and managing projects...
Is this a joke? My undergraduate fluids class used first principles to derive not only Bernoulli but the entire Navier Stokes theorem and the mathematical techniques to discretize those equations and solve them numerically. You come across as someone talking straight up out of your arse.
And force is the second derivative of position with time? Think you mean acceleration there chief. And that’s not something you derive it is literally the definition of the expression.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:16 pm to Ross
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:17 pm to jimbeam
Well this thread certainly took a turn...
Thanks to all those who responded to my OP!
Thanks to all those who responded to my OP!
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:06 pm to Ross
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Ross
Bro wtf?? You need to watch your self, don't you realize you are just a lowly mechanical engineer and that you are speaking to a great physicists? So great he had to work as a mechanical engineer.
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Ross
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:40 pm to lsu777
My daughter is a rising Jr. in ChE. She got an internship in a lab this summer making $10/hr. It was invaluable though, because, while quite talented, she now knows working in a research lab is fun, but not for her, long term.
They offered her a continuing position and she is going to do 10 hrs. per week during the semester. She also knows she doesn't want to work in the patch. Her plan is to try another internship next summer and start nailing down her path. ChE does seem to offer a lot of options.
They offered her a continuing position and she is going to do 10 hrs. per week during the semester. She also knows she doesn't want to work in the patch. Her plan is to try another internship next summer and start nailing down her path. ChE does seem to offer a lot of options.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:54 pm to Hangit
Chemical engineers will start out in the neighborhood of $90,000 - $95,000 in a plant. And will have killer benefits. And will more than likely migrate from engineering into a leadership role in which he/she will just keep climbing up the ladder making more money at each stop. To me, it's a no-brainer which path to take.
Imagine starting out in your 20's making $90 something thousand a year.
Imagine starting out in your 20's making $90 something thousand a year.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:40 pm to RealityTiger
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Chemical engineers will start out in the neighborhood of $90,000 - $95,000 in a plant. And will have killer benefits. And will more than likely migrate from engineering into a leadership role in which he/she will just keep climbing up the ladder making more money at each stop. To me, it's a no-brainer which path to take.
Imagine starting out in your 20's making $90 something thousand a year.
Pretty much. Even the small plants are starting them at 80+. That is why I laughed at Gastons comment about engineers not making 100k fine years into career.
Mechanical are starting 70-85, civil in the plants 65 or so, EE, 80 or so.
All at 22 or 23, plus bad arse benefits. Like my plant matches dollar for dollar in 401k up to 4% plus gives 8% at end of the year as a bonus.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:45 pm to Gaston
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No big deal, But really? In undergrad we derived every single equation every single time...it was the process. It wasn’t so much learning why, it was convincing yourself why it worked.
Gaston. I was going to just ignore this thread, but we need to be honest with each other.
Physics is a great subject but it just isn't very marketable for jobs without some form of other skills (like you) or another degree more focused in an applied subject (like me).
I relate to this because I was once a Physics major at LA Tech. The difference is that you obviously are proud of your degree while I typically regret mine. It wasn't until I was in Senior level Physics classes that I realized: this REALLY isn't for me.
Most people will be better off studying engineering, even industrial engineering. If for no other reason it's because their programs are designed to appeal to employers.
Physics is best suited to prepare people for higher education in both itself and other disciplines. Plenty of Physics BS people get Masters in Engineering, other Sciences, and even certain Business programs. Surely you already know this.
School tier also matters when it comes to assessing what is more "difficult" to grasp.
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