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re: Engineering Career Advice - Mechanical, Chemical, Petroleum

Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:01 pm to
I just couldn’t come up with a science equivalent off the top of my head. It’s more practical and not so theoretical like the others.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1253 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:08 pm to
I’m an ME working in upstream oil and gas. Stay away from a petroleum degree and the industry. New drilling techniques and production enhancements are decreasing the number of workers and equipment necessary.

Plan on 5 years to graduate in engineering and get an internship or work experience immediately. ME size material and equipment. ChemEs optimize processes including equipment selection for chemical manufacturing.

Overall, find the job you want and then get the degree and experience in college to land that job. In the real world an engineering degree means you’re the person who can handle multiple tasks and can adapt to get the job done. R&D nerds work on new stuff, the engineer just makes sure everything happens on time and on budget.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1773 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:16 pm to
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Science is MUCH better than engineering. Learn why it actually works, not the equations someone made to explain it to engineers...just my take.




At its core, engineering is using complex calculus based on relatively simple equations to derive why it “is” and to determine what it will “be”.

Were you under the impression that engineers just memorized equations and tables for 4 years?
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 4:18 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:19 pm to
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Learn why it actually works, not the equations someone made to explain it to engineers...just my take.



What an absurd take, but it's absolutely no surprise considering the source.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:19 pm to
You realize engineers learn the theory behind those wee lil equations right?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22232 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:24 pm to
Or create them. Example: ERDC which is research and development
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:25 pm to
As a Civil, a laughed way too hard at this.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:26 pm to
That's pretty good
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:27 pm to
truth
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31761 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Literally every field an engineer does, at some level...probably have to leave out the easy engineering like Civil or Industrial. Granted, you’d have more school...but it takes longer to really figure out why than just being told to memorize the formula.



Haha this is why you think most engineers aren't knocking down 100k five years out of school, because you are fricking stupid.

No most science grade can't even come close to doing what most engineers do. No most science grads don't come close to making the same as engineers.

And yes engineers in the plants or related industry that are worth a shite are knocking down 100k after five years. Most way more.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2597 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:34 pm to
Retired Pete eng here .depends what you want
Pete eng high pay scale but very limited where you will live in the us and international
Very very unstable career paths and lay offs frequent and will be by departments so does not matter if ranked high. Actually will hurt cause if ranked high paid high and they are reducing cost

Chem eng can cross industries easily and be Pete if you want or others like pharma etc everywhere. So go Pete with chem eng degree for money but if you need to leave the industry easier than a Pete

ME great but lowest pay (still very good!)of them but you really can go anywhere in the world or industries. (May slip into oil as drilling engineer or facility engineer but I doubt it)
Depending on individual interest and strength big big difference in me and chem eng and he needs to go to the one he is best at. Chemistry or and hard tangible things
Does he like the lab or in the yard build stuff

FYI when I hired on forty plus years ago 13 engineers came into the district office as petroleum engineers and I was the only one with a Pete eng. others were chem and mech but things have changed
They just trained us all which was great cause I spent months at the training center drinking will the others were in class
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39164 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:34 pm to
I’ve done it, I live it.

Maxwell’s equations are the basis for EE, show me class that derives them? Ya can’t. Force is the second derivative of position with respect to time...and the basis for ME...show me the class...Ya can’t. Bernoulli...we can do this all day, literally y’all don’t care and that’s fine. Y’all are much better at multitasking and keeping shite straight and managing projects...
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39164 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:37 pm to
Your Vo-Tec degree is great.

If I’m fricking stupid then oh boy...
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10699 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:38 pm to
If he wants steady employment ME. EE is also good in that electric motors and batteries is a growing field. Civil is good is in that we always will need roads, bridges, rail, and so on.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39164 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:38 pm to
I’ve worked a ton at AEDC.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84464 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:39 pm to
You really think we were just given equations and not taught where they came from and why?
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39164 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:46 pm to
Dude, I’ve taken every level of EE, freshman to 7XXX, I work as an ME. I use ASME codes and standards and API recommended practices...you try to program that shite into MathCad prime, or the like, without units...the whole damn industry is the same.

No big deal, But really? In undergrad we derived every single equation every single time...it was the process. It wasn’t so much learning why, it was convincing yourself why it worked.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:49 pm to
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Gaston


If you try to get through ChE just memorizing equations without understanding their basis or derivations, you might as well pack your bags. Those were the people that were flunking when I was in school. Sorry your physics degree is worthless home slice.

To OP, I would probably tell your kid to do ME. I love the work thats available with a ChE degree and all the subject matter, especially transport shite, but ME has so much more flexibility for where you can actually work. Kind of tied to the Gulf South with ChE, at least as a new grad.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84464 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:49 pm to
I don't give a shite what you claim to have taken. I know you don't have a bs in engineering, and I know you're full of it with the shite you're spouting in this thread.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25934 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:51 pm to
ME is the way to go but not just because I am one.

Way more versatile and is flexible to changing market conditions.

I could have gone to consulting, Aerospace, construction, etc. I chose O&G. Didn’t need ChemE or PE for that
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