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Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:14 am to Liberator
Neat. Nothing about an airship, zeppelin, or balloon propulsion was free.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:19 am to Hulkklogan
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I think tech was too far behind to make renewables viable for mass use back then.
What's more "renewable" than air? And electricity harnessed from the air (the aether)?
Tech was waaay advanced back then. Amazingly so. Refined. (and becoming more refined all the time -- until tPTB put the Kibosh on all progress.)
tPTB simply could NOT allow FREE anything -- especially power, electricity and transport to remain free for The Serfs. So they created a world that ran instead on the Fossil Fuel (NG and Oil) THEY alone monopolized.
Regarding the power of Compressed Air (this is another mind-bender): The Jet Fuel Hoax:
Jet Fuel Hoax (IT'S COMPRESSED AIR!)
(The usual sources are trying desperately to refute this vid and the truth. To all: DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!)
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Aircraft that use HIGH BYPASS TURBOFAN ENGINES (most commercial passenger airplanes) don't use fuel to keep those engines running!! Come to find out, we've all been taken advantage of once again. A large percentage of your airline ticket is supposedly based on the large amount of FUEL used during the flight. If only a SMALL amount of fuel is used to START the engine, and then the engine runs ON ITS' OWN during the whole flight, WHAT are you being charged for? The cheap peanuts? The airplanes themselves have been paid for a hundred times over by now, so WHERE is all that money going?
Research "high bypass turbofan engines".
The only fuel being used during an airplane flight is the diesel or gasoline that runs the on-board generator which creates electricity to run the electrical systems. The MASSIVE amounts of fuel we are told is pumped into these aircraft is a LIE. The wings are EMPTY. They don't hold fuel.
This concept is astonishing and infuriating, simultaneously. It's just another lie among the many we are sold throughout our lifetimes. Research EVERYTHING... because most of what you think is "truth" is not. It never has been and never will be, no matter how tightly you cling to it.
This is the MISSING video from 7:56 -- (The ENGINE MANUFACTURERS, THEMSELVES saying that 90% of the thrust comes from the compressed BYPASS AIR!!):
(LINK
If the theory holds that the aircraft is IMPELLING itself through the aether (which is more than just the "air"), then, in reality, there is NO thrust. The whole concept of Propulsion goes right out the proverbial window. It may cause one to consider the strange craft (tic tacs, "UFOs", etc.) that can turn on a dime and head in entirely different directions as utilizing "impulsion"(?) via the aether as a means of controlling movement and accelerating and decelerating. It means we have no need for engines that PUSH, when we can create engines that PULL us through the air.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:22 am to Liberator
I realize you’re probably just a troll but holy shite, this is actually the dumbest thing I’ve read all week. 
I wasn’t aware that air compressed itself and that steam & electricity were “free.”
Oof.
By the way, your obsession with airships is weird. The Hindenburg used 4x1200hp diesel engines for power. It was over 3x as long as a 747 and carried up to 70 passengers (not counting the 50 odd crew members required to fly it) and topped out at 70-80 mph.
Meanwhile a 747-8 carries 467 passengers at a cruise speed of 580 mph.
That means one 747 can move over 1,800 passengers per day back and forth between JFK and Heathrow (not counting approach time, refueling, etc. for the sake of argument).
Using the same assumptions, it would take over 48 Hindenburgs (with something like 2,000 total crew members) to match the capabilities of one 747-8.
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So what are/were these "free" energy sources?
* Compressed Air
* Electric
* Steam
I wasn’t aware that air compressed itself and that steam & electricity were “free.”
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* Mercury
* Aethereal (air)
Oof.
By the way, your obsession with airships is weird. The Hindenburg used 4x1200hp diesel engines for power. It was over 3x as long as a 747 and carried up to 70 passengers (not counting the 50 odd crew members required to fly it) and topped out at 70-80 mph.
Meanwhile a 747-8 carries 467 passengers at a cruise speed of 580 mph.
That means one 747 can move over 1,800 passengers per day back and forth between JFK and Heathrow (not counting approach time, refueling, etc. for the sake of argument).
Using the same assumptions, it would take over 48 Hindenburgs (with something like 2,000 total crew members) to match the capabilities of one 747-8.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:22 am to iAmBatman
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You do realize there is a reason we don't use zeppelins anymore.
Teach -- please inform the rest of us exactly how & why that is. I'm all ears.
(Is....is it...."But...but "Oh, the humanity!! THE HINDENBURG!! "TOO DANGEROUS?!?!")
Or something else?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:23 am to Liberator
quote:Obviously none of these are free, at the very least we have to build a device to harvest the energy.
So what are/were these "free" energy sources?
* Compressed Air
* Electric
* Steam
* Mercury
* Aethereal (air)
-SO-
If your whole thing here is that O&G destroyed these technologies, why haven't you mentioned any of the legit free energy sources that we harvest today? Solar, wind, tidal, geothermal, hydro. All of these energy sources are "free" in the sense that we simply harvest the energy that exists around us. The only costs are what it takes to build the device and whatever ongoing maintenance. The "fuel" is free.
I can agree with you that O&G are doing everything they can to discredit all of these free sources, but why do you focus on imaginary tech when there is real tech all around us that does the same thing?
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:25 am to Liberator
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Or something else?
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 11:30 am
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:26 am to Liberator
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The Hindenburg used 4x1200hp diesel engines for power. It was over 3x as long as a 747 and carried up to 70 passengers (not counting the 50 odd crew members required to fly it) and topped out at 70-80 mph.
Meanwhile a 747-8 carries 467 passengers at a cruise speed of 580 mph.
That means one 747 can move over 1,800 passengers per day back and forth between JFK and Heathrow (not counting approach time, refueling, etc. for the sake of argument).
Using the same assumptions, it would take over 48 Hindenburgs (with something like 2,000 total crew members) to match the capabilities of one 747-8.
quoted from another poster
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:26 am to Liberator
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Compressed Air * Electric * Steam
Are not free. You need energy to compress the air
You need fossil fuels to burn to create steam
You need fossil fuels or source of energy to create any form of electricity
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:27 am to lostinbr
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By the way, your obsession with airships is weird.
Is it?
Then it could also be said "History's" near TOTAL OMISSION is "obsessive."
Airships and blimps were routine transportation since the late 1500s till the 1920s (btw -- just how do you think all those olde aerial maps of the world were drawn? Or do you believe there were Land Surveyors back in the 1600s? Did *they* also pack onboard engines to propel THEM? You can't have it both ways, friend.)
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:27 am to Liberator
We do use them. They are what the normies call “Satellites”
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:28 am to beerJeep
How was transportation even free? You had to pay for a train ticket
You had to buy a horse and feed it
You had to buy a horse and feed it
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:29 am to Liberator
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The ENGINE MANUFACTURERS, THEMSELVES saying that 90% of the thrust comes from the compressed BYPASS AIR!!
The bypass air is compressed by the power from the jet turbine. The bypass is conceptually no different than the prop on a piston engine plane, except that the source of power is a jet turbine instead of a piston engine.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:30 am to deltaland
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Are not free. You need energy to compress the air
You need fossil fuels to burn to create steam
You are omitting the other "energy" sources that have been discussed. Like harnessing the Aether (electricity in air), batteries (yes, Olde World batteries), Red Mercury, etc.
If interested further, it's work. If not, I understand not wanting to take research further.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:31 am to iAmBatman
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:32 am to deltaland
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You had to buy a horse and feed it
Or donkey.
The serfs needed to remain serfs :-(
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:32 am to Liberator
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Airships and blimps were routine transportation since the late 1500s till the 1920s
And Cavalry ruled the battlefield from antiquity to about…1916.
Maybe something happened then? Maybe something that rhymes with Swirled Gore Fun?
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btw -- just how do you think all those olde aerial maps of the world were drawn?
What age are we talking here? Because maps precede air travel by just a few years
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:33 am to Liberator
There’s a reason comments are turned off on that video. They’d likely be pointing out that air doesn’t compress itself to make free energy. That air has to be compressed by a machine that requires energy input, whether a laborer or an engine powered by some energy source. The compressed air is just a storage of potential energy, just like a battery.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:33 am to Liberator
quote:You know, with your energy and passion you could probably make a real difference in the world if your mind and time weren't completely filled with nonsense all the time.
You are omitting the other "energy" sources that have been discussed. Like harnessing the Aether (electricity in air), batteries (yes, Olde World batteries), Red Mercury, etc.
If interested further, it's work. If not, I understand not wanting to take research further.
Posted on 4/29/22 at 11:33 am to Liberator
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