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re: Elon Musk wins bet; Tesla beats deadline, switches on gigantic Australian battery array
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:09 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:09 am to upgrayedd
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I like how Tesla doesn't even give you the full range potential of their cars unless you pay an additional fee
To be fair, all the auto manufacturers do this. When the Mustang, the Crown Vic, the Thunderbird, the Town Car, and the Grand Marquis all used the same Modular 4.6L V8 engine to reduce tooling and manufacturing costs across the Ford marques, Ford detuned and used cheaper parts that would produce less power and more sedate characteristics on their large touring sedans. In the V8 Thunderbird, however, they couldn't go that far. The T-bird was a sports coupe, so the engine had to perform way more aggressively than the touring sedans that needed a V8 just because of their size. So, in the T-bird,the engine was VERY similar to that installed in the Mustang GT, but it was engine computer limited to ensure that the more expensive Mustang GT was Ford's fastest production car off the assembly line while still enjoying the reductions in cost of Modular assembly.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:14 am to TigerstuckinMS
Yeah, that's a lot different than flipping a switch for an extra 5k
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:17 am to upgrayedd
quote:We've had this argument before, and then posters come in and post a whole bunch of items in today's tech world that you pay extra for and they just flip a switch, and no one at all complains about that but we do for Tesla, not sure why.
Yeah, that's a lot different than flipping a switch for an extra 5k
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:18 am to shel311
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We've had this argument before, and then posters come in and post a whole bunch of items in today's tech world that you pay extra for and they just flip a switch, and no one at all complains about that but we do for Tesla, not sure why.
I don't like when other tech companies do that either. Happy now?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:19 am to upgrayedd
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Yeah, that's a lot different than flipping a switch for an extra 5k
I'm sure there will eventually be a programmer or cheat around for all of these EV's.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:20 am to member12
Probably. And it will void any warranties.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:20 am to shel311
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Interesting reason to not like someone. Not to mention that's just 1 of his companies.
I mean he is the Mastermind behind it, and he goes out and promotes and personally promises to do things by a specific date then never performs. I don't have a personal vendetta against the guy, but per usual you spin things to try to create controversy.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:26 am to upgrayedd
quote:Nah
I don't like when other tech companies do that either. Happy now?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:27 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:You said you didn't like him, I said it's an interesting reason to not like him.
but per usual you spin things
You said I spun your words.
Have some conviction in your statements, don't be so passive. If you say something, own it for once.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:41 am to shel311
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Nah
Sorry, I forgot that you're never happy
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:46 am to upgrayedd
quote:Very common practice, particularly in the CPU industry. Intel, for example, needs to hit a range of price points in order to maximize profits. Their problem, though, is basically that the quality of the parts means that most of them could be sold as high end parts. But since they can't sell that many high end units, they cripple a large portion of their units so that they can be sold at mid-range and budget prices, too.
I like how Tesla doesn't even give you the full range potential of their cars unless you pay an additional fee
It just doesn't make any sense to purposefully produce different parts when it's cheaper to make them all the same. It is a "feature" of capitalism that makes the practice of intentionally crippling your own products a viable and profitable strategy. Funny, though, that it's typically conservatives complaining about it!
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:50 am to TJGator1215
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Elon Musk is the biggest con artist of this millennium
He says he's going to do some really outrageous stuff, and then he proceeds to do this outrageous stuff. Where's the con?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:52 am to Korkstand
I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to do it. That's what people like you don't understand.
They have a battery sold in all cars that will allow it to travel x miles. They purposely limit the range of the vehicle to y despite the fact that the battery already has the capability of x so people will pay extra. I can criticize them for that.
They have a battery sold in all cars that will allow it to travel x miles. They purposely limit the range of the vehicle to y despite the fact that the battery already has the capability of x so people will pay extra. I can criticize them for that.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:01 am to upgrayedd
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I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to do it. That's what people like you don't understand.
quote:And here's what you apparently don't understand: you aren't criticizing Tesla or Musk, you are criticizing a feature of capitalism and free markets.
They have a battery sold in all cars that will allow it to travel x miles. They purposely limit the range of the vehicle to y despite the fact that the battery already has the capability of x so people will pay extra. I can criticize them for that.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:04 am to Korkstand
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And here's what you apparently don't understand: you aren't criticizing Tesla or Musk, you are criticizing a feature of capitalism and free markets.
Yes, because that was "capitalism's" decision and not Musk's or Tesla's. GTFOH
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:05 am to upgrayedd
quote:Yep, you nailed it, that's me.
Sorry, I forgot that you're never happy
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:06 am to Korkstand
quote:He doesn't like when they do it but admittedly he only mentions it for Tesla.
Very common practice, particularly in the CPU industry.
Not that poster personally, but it's the same with those who cry about the subsidies while other auto corporations have gotten subsidies as well, never heard any of them complain about that, just when Tesla does it.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:08 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:08 am to shel311
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He doesn't like when they do it but admittedly he only mentions it for Tesla.
Makes perfect sense, right?
Oh, that's right. I forgot that you don't know how to read.
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I don't like when other tech companies do that either.
You're such a hack, lady.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:11 am to upgrayedd
quote:Oh, you're taking credit for mentioning it AFTER I pointed out that you only mention it for Tesla so you throw out a token post to say you don't like anyone else doing it but nevermind that you ONLY call out Tesla for doing it.
Oh, that's right. I forgot that you don't know how to read.
That's funny.
quote:Awe, he's getting pissy, that's adorable.
You're such a hack, lady.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:12 am to upgrayedd
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Yes, because that was "capitalism's" decision and not Musk's or Tesla's. GTFOH
Don't be silly, capitalism can't make decisions. I am simply stating that artificial scarcity is a direct result of a pure capitalistic system.
Musk must maximize shareholder value, which in this case means minimizing costs by producing one type of battery instead of multiple, and maximizing revenue by creating a tiered product line. This isn't a choice or decision made by Musk or Tesla. Rather, this is the ONLY way this type of product should be produced and sold if we trust in capitalism. And most of us do, to an extent.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:14 am
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