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re: Elon Mush wants to double H1b visas
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:22 am to LSU316
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:22 am to LSU316
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Here’s the thing the American tech job market has predicated this for years. 1. The talent in India is equivalent to American talent. 2. Indians aren’t entitled. 3. Indians work hard. 4. Indians have more realistic salary and career expectations. With all that said what major corporation wouldn’t go the H1B route?
You are getting downvoted but its true
If you put a lowly tech job posting online you will get 90% Indian applicants. Its just how it is
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:22 am to yaboidarrell
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:22 am to Pettifogger
Goldennugget basically says it’s a dot monopoly on tech jobs in DFW.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:22 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
There's certainly problems with goverment inefficiency, immigration etc... but most of these, while good talking points, are just a budgetary drop in the bucket.
The overwhelming reason for the economic issues facing middle class folks in this country is the ever increasing efficiency by which billionaires milk every extra penny from the middle class.
Trump having the same billionaires who have raised this to an art form "solve" the problem is a bad joke.
The overwhelming reason for the economic issues facing middle class folks in this country is the ever increasing efficiency by which billionaires milk every extra penny from the middle class.
Trump having the same billionaires who have raised this to an art form "solve" the problem is a bad joke.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:22 am to LNCHBOX
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Well I think we know why Rog isn't posting in this thread anymore.
Well Roger is a moron, which is why it's even more puzzling you two don't get along.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:23 am to Mingo Was His NameO
So here’s the thing…..after this are you going to put in laws that outlaw full offshoring of positions and roles. That’s what’s going to happen in your scenario. I can hire a guy that lives in India to work remote for a fraction of what an H1B worker would even make.
ETA This is what I don’t want to do FWIW.
ETA This is what I don’t want to do FWIW.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:23 am to lowspark12
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I don’t disagree with you… but you’re asking billion dollar publicly traded companies to potentially act against their best interests… that’s not gonna happen.
The $2 billion publicly traded company I worked for hired me in July 2023. I was the Data Science/Machine Learning department. I was a one man team. Started this department from the ground up. Did a good job. Won employee of the quarter for Q4 2023 (not just for my department but the whole corporate office).
The executive and VP who hired me got let go and the new executive was DEI obsessed woman and the new VP was an Indian who came from Wal Mart. First thing they did was hire Boston Consulting Group to determine how to streamline the department.
I got laid off along with 6 others (all white men). I was forced to train my Indian replacement or I wouldn't have gotten my severance. I was only there 7 fricking months.
The fact is these companies don't give a shite about how good of a job you do - if they think you make too much money and think they can replace you with someone for a fraction of what they pay you - they will. That's why we need more and more people to rise up against this bullshite abuse of the system that allows it to happen.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:23 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
How many alter egos do you have? Is it Split levels?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:24 am to LNCHBOX
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Well I think we know why Rog isn't posting in this thread anymore.
I'm on the poli board arguing with you retarded populists.
C'mon over, there are many as dumb as you there. You would feel at home.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:24 am to Bunk Moreland
Every race is allowed a region or country that is theirs and is respected as such.
No guilt beat into them from a young age based on their skin color.
No teachings that diversity is a strength.
No rhetoric that they’re racist if they want to protect their culture and language and heritage and common ancestry.
It’s amazing that it is only white countries that for some reason can’t simply carry on unless they dilute - and therefore destroy - their racial identity.
Peculiar.
No guilt beat into them from a young age based on their skin color.
No teachings that diversity is a strength.
No rhetoric that they’re racist if they want to protect their culture and language and heritage and common ancestry.
It’s amazing that it is only white countries that for some reason can’t simply carry on unless they dilute - and therefore destroy - their racial identity.
Peculiar.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:25 am to Mushroom1968
the idea that at any point conservatives didn’t have a voice is farcical
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:25 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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My point was that mass illegal immigration of millions of unskilled and unvetted border-crossers is a much more important issue.
I’m not sure that’s totally true. Illegal immigrants fill a void American workers don’t want. H1B’s are taking high paying jobs straight out of Americans hands. They’re both important in different ways
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:25 am to Draconian Sanctions
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the idea that at any point conservatives didn’t have a voice is farcical
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:26 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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That's not to say i'm against legal immigration or anything like that. Just, the more that people think we can just outsource something, the more and more dependent we will get on it. Same with any entitlement type policy mentality.
Same, it's a band aid we're using and will likely continue to use in lieu of meaningful efforts to correct the imbalance.
No I don't think it's necessarily easier to hire a foreign worker, but it's a lot easier than impacting amorphous problems like "getting Americans focused on STEM"
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:26 am to LSU316
quote:if that's what you want to call it... yes
So have the Feds artificially tamper with the market further?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:26 am to goldennugget
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Absolute lie
I googled multiple sources and the 65,000 number was a unanimous reference point. If that is wrong, then i will happily correct it. Please cite your source.
As far as them being vetted (or not vetted) are you saying that Google, Microsoft, etc., are hiring people with no interview, no paperwork, no documentation, etc? Just unnamed, undocumented drones?
While perhaps they could be vetted more, in comparison to illegals streaming over the border with ZERO vetting, they undergo at least SOME oversight.
And for the record, I am against a complete shutdown of all immigration. I was just pointing out that, compared to the illegal immigration of millions of people, that the H1B holders represent a minuscule amount of people.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:26 am to wm72
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The overwhelming reason for the economic issues facing middle class folks in this country is the ever increasing efficiency by which billionaires milk every extra penny from the middle class.
This is true and that is what Trump is going to make even easier.
It just baffles me how people gleefully cheer on their own economic doom. C'est la vie I suppose.
(This is not an endorsement for the other party, even though most are unable to realize this.)
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:27 am to Cosmo
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If you put a lowly tech job posting online you will get 90% Indian applicants. Its just how it is
The role I hired for back in the spring, a more junior level role, had 500+ applicants... all but 20 of which were Indian. I looked at every single resume.
Most of them followed the same resume template. Undergrad degree from some university in India, then came to the US to get a master's degree, just graduated in the last 6 months, yet had 3+ years of experience at some US based company.
Fortunately, I had full control over who I selected to interview, and the HR rep I worked with for the role also told me to auto reject any resume that followed that exact template and also auto reject any applicant who checked the "Need Sponsorship" box. At least the company I currently work for is aware of this fraud.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm on the poli board
Please stay there. It’s like a modern day e insane asylum
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:28 am to yaboidarrell
Interested to see how this shakes out. From a 'free market' perspective (even though we do not have a 'true' free market) there should be no visa's. When supply is low enough (or demand great enough) wages will increase and more people will become engineers, doctors, etc. From the standpoint of America First, this would seem to include everything (manufacturing, materials, and labor whenever POSSIBLE). 
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