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re: Elon Mush wants to double H1b visas
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:09 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:09 am to Pettifogger
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Some adjustment maybe, but people adapt quickly and new ideas/people would fill voids.
You can bet your arse that construction costs and food costs would go up almost immediately…..assuming we expand this conversation to all legal immigration.
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I think the starting question is whether America should be for Americans, or whether we have some larger/broader/non-nationalist duty to unknown people elsewhere.
I’m 100% pro America. I want all the shite we use imagine, created, designed, built and mass produced in this country. Ending H1B and other forms of legal immigration will not get us there.
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:09 am to LNCHBOX
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Trump isn't even in office yet.
That would be very concerning for your position, were you troubled with the ability to think.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:10 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
Rog already has the fake smart guy routine down, you need to come up with something of your own.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:10 am to yaboidarrell
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the United States does not have nearly enough engineers
This should surprise no one. American kids want to be influencers and rappers.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:11 am to LSU316
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You can bet your arse that construction costs and food costs would go up almost immediately…..assuming we expand this conversation to all legal immigration.
But that’s stupid. Comparing sponsored professional labor to unskilled work by illegal immigrants isn’t the same conversation
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:12 am to yaboidarrell
And with this I am out when it comes to Elon Musk.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:14 am to LNCHBOX
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you need to come up with something of your own.
I appreciate your sense of irony, even if it was totally unintended.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:14 am to Pettifogger
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First, I don't accept that there would be a meaningful QOL drop for most if we halted immigration. Some adjustment maybe, but people adapt quickly and new ideas/people would fill voids. You'd also need to account for QOL improvements.
There is a part too that plays into the messaging and perception of the people. At some point, why go into the engineering fields if they will just be imported in. Then, shockingly, we have no engineers here and have to bring even more in. If we promote that if we want a problem fixed, we have to do it ourselves, it will usually get resolved in that manner.
That's not to say i'm against legal immigration or anything like that. Just, the more that people think we can just outsource something, the more and more dependent we will get on it. Same with any entitlement type policy mentality.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 11:16 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:15 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
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I appreciate your sense of irony, even if it was totally unintended.
I literally just told you this role is already taken. Try something else.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:15 am to Pettifogger
I don’t disagree with you… but you’re asking billion dollar publicly traded companies to potentially act against their best interests… that’s not gonna happen.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:16 am to lowspark12
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but you’re asking billion dollar publicly traded companies to potentially act against their best interests… that’s not gonna happen.
This has been happening for 150 years
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:17 am to lowspark12
quote:that's why we need to make it impossible for them to do so, in regards to tech and engineering jobs
but you’re asking billion dollar publicly traded companies to potentially act against their best interests
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:18 am to yaboidarrell
President musk
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:18 am to LNCHBOX
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I literally just told you this role is already taken.
You'll have to forgive me, I have a very bad habit of ignoring opinions from dumb people.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:19 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
Well I think we know why Rog isn't posting in this thread anymore.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:20 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
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You'll have to forgive me, I have a very bad habit of ignoring opinions from dumb people.
Login to your other account, you’ve already laud the ground work there
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:20 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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that's why we need to make it impossible for them to do so, in regards to tech and engineering jobs
So have the Feds artificially tamper with the market further?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:21 am to LSU316
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So have the Feds artificially tamper with the market further?
That’s exactly what the H1B program does
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:21 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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i love how the average pro immigration argument
I'm anti-immigration. I clearly stated that in my post that I support a complete end to immigration, and even have another thread with that topic on this page currently.
My point was that mass illegal immigration of millions of unskilled and unvetted border-crossers is a much more important issue. H1B visa holders represent a relatively small number of people. Sometimes you have to pick your battles.
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