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re: Electrical grid can’t keep up, but they want to phase out gas PLUS add electric cars?
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:00 pm to Ross
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:00 pm to Ross
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I’ve heard the term “decentralized energy” tossed around the tech circles as a way for some to use solar to “get off the grid”.
The big point here, and what I was alluding to with resi solar and its support of grid stability is that if you generate more closer to the point of demand, then you don’t have to move it around as much and it puts less load on the grid. You can go off grid, but if everyone stays interconnected it’s actually better.
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:00 pm to Btrtigerfan
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Solar panels- Covered in snow and its cloudy.
Wind turbines-frozen.
also both require products made from the petro industry . Wind Mills have to be connected to the power grid in order to heat the internals in freezing weather.
The whole thing is a fricking scam
"We just have to engineer more efficient and better products" is the counter argument I hear all the time. They have received millions of dollars in grants over the last 12 years and haven't come up with this....because it's not sustainable
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:02 pm to Ross
I would really love a tesla roof on a house I am planning on building but I have heard that it is nearly impossible to get done due to certified installers being so short.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:02 pm to Centinel
sorry yeah I wasn’t clear in my post that my point is I think the market will win out over any desire that we all adhere to urban living standards
The fear mongering over nuclear power is one of the most frustrating and unbelievable things I have ever seen in my engineering career. It’s literally the solution to so many problems but people reference a freak tsunami in which we learned lessons on making more robust reactor designs in the future and a terrible reactor design that failed in spectacular fashion that the USSR used 40+ years ago as a reason we can’t or shouldn’t use it. I’ve seen several that thing we literally risk a nuclear explosion upon the meltdown of a reactor, so ignorance abounds in the public when it comes to nuclear power.
And I believe I’ve read about thorium based reactors that are even great at not producing nuclear waste. My office mate is a nuclear engineer and knows way more about this stuff than I do, but it sounded like the perfect technology for our current needs
The fear mongering over nuclear power is one of the most frustrating and unbelievable things I have ever seen in my engineering career. It’s literally the solution to so many problems but people reference a freak tsunami in which we learned lessons on making more robust reactor designs in the future and a terrible reactor design that failed in spectacular fashion that the USSR used 40+ years ago as a reason we can’t or shouldn’t use it. I’ve seen several that thing we literally risk a nuclear explosion upon the meltdown of a reactor, so ignorance abounds in the public when it comes to nuclear power.
And I believe I’ve read about thorium based reactors that are even great at not producing nuclear waste. My office mate is a nuclear engineer and knows way more about this stuff than I do, but it sounded like the perfect technology for our current needs
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:04 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
The best part, is that to get electric, they need coal.
I've been the the big power station Downtown. Still using coal(clean coal, lol) to get all that power going to homes.
I've been the the big power station Downtown. Still using coal(clean coal, lol) to get all that power going to homes.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:04 pm to Ross
I've been beating the LFTR drum for years. The problem is that the bureaucracy and NIMBYism in this country has destroyed any chance they have of making an impact here.
Mainly because of left leaning greenies. Which is such a fricking irony.
Mainly because of left leaning greenies. Which is such a fricking irony.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:07 pm to Ross
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The fear mongering over nuclear power is one of the most frustrating and unbelievable things I have ever seen in my engineering career.
It's infuriating
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:09 pm to Adam4LSU
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It's infuriating
It's because scratch a greenie, and you'll find a marxist. They really have no interest in green energy. Their goal is purely political.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:12 pm to Centinel
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It's because scratch a greenie, and you'll find a marxist. They really have no interest in green energy. Their goal is purely political.
I’ve often wondered if it’s because they don’t know jack shite about energy or because the parties like to put their jerseys in everything else to try and make it partisan. I hate that something as basic as energy has been politicized.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:12 pm to billjamin
We politicized healthcare and medicine, there is nothing off limits.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:14 pm to Centinel
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But for major urban areas in most of the US (where most of the population lives)
Wrong. About 2/3rds of the US population lives in rural or suburban areas.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:15 pm to Centinel
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Centinel
Dude. Don’t be a fossil fool.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:16 pm to Centinel
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They really have no interest in green energy. Their goal is purely political.
I'll never understand how people don't see this.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:16 pm to Ross
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For mains power we need more nuclear plants
Tree huggers were protesting nuclear power way before the Russian disaster.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:18 pm to billjamin
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I’ve often wondered if it’s because they don’t know jack shite about energy or because the parties like to put their jerseys in everything else to try and make it partisan. I hate that something as basic as energy has been politicized.
A little of both in my experience. Most greenies I know just parrot talking points. You challenge them on things like LFTRs and their brains melt and resort to insults.
Then you have others who know they're being used by politicians, but go along with it because they think it will advance the cause. The problem is they don't take in to account the cost of doing so.
Then you have the unicorns. I've met exactly one. My niece's boyfriend. Hyper-focused on ecology and green energy. Very left wing. And on of the most rabid advocates for clean nuclear energy I've ever met. Ask him about just using renewables and he'll lose his damn mind.
Some of the oddest conversations I've ever had, being that I'm a hard core libertarian that is all for renewables (market based of course) and he's very, very left wing and all for letting the market solve the issue. Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:19 pm to Paul Allen
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Dude. Don’t be a fossil fool.
frick off Paul.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:21 pm to Centinel
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Name one alternative form of energy that's not nuclear that can power a stable grid through the kind of use that's being seen right now.
Your right, we should still be traveling via horse and buggy and reading Gutenberg books by candle light.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:21 pm to billjamin
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Generations at the point of demand, i.e resi solar is probably the best thing that could happen for grid stability. And even better with storage bolted on.
The reliability isn’t there for on demand generation in solar and wind. Cloudy day or windless day and you’re fricked. Natural gas is easily stored and burned as needed.
Also, without storage tech improving drastically it will never be able to replace oil and gas.
I’d be investing in battery R&D tech if I had boatloads of cash. Eventually it will happen but you are naive if you think we are less than 15 years from a non-petroleum fueled power grid.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:22 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Name one alternative form of energy that's not nuclear that can power a stable grid through the kind of use that's being seen right now.
Answer the question.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 8:23 pm
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