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Electrical grid can’t keep up, but they want to phase out gas PLUS add electric cars?
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:23 pm
All electric heat? All electric cars?
Regardless of your opinion on global warming or electric cars, how can any reasonable person believe our infrastructure will be able to handle anywhere close to the required load?
Converting all of the natural gas and gasoline power over to electrical will cost trillions of dollars and take decades, and then still won’t be sufficient.
Regardless of your opinion on global warming or electric cars, how can any reasonable person believe our infrastructure will be able to handle anywhere close to the required load?
Converting all of the natural gas and gasoline power over to electrical will cost trillions of dollars and take decades, and then still won’t be sufficient.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:24 pm
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:26 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Control electricity and you control everything at that point.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:26 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I'm not keeping up the the power grid news but wouldn't a 100+ temp day put more of a load on the grid? Or do most people in TX rely on electricity and not natural gas for heat.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:26 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Solar panels- Covered in snow and its cloudy.
Wind turbines-frozen.
Wind turbines-frozen.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:28 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:28 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Electrical grid can’t keep up, but they want to phase out gas PLUS add electric cars?
It's almost like if you know you could plan to have more output available. Crazy, I know.
Being against alternative forms of energy is just as retarded as being against fossil fuels.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I mean in 100 years I am sure we will be doing something different. You to always have to be innovating.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Biden, who long has been accused by critics of being soft on China, issued a lengthy executive order in which, buried amid matters purportedly designed to combat climate change, was an anomalous and potentially dangerous provision. The provision in question addresses nothing reasonably connected to climate change. Instead, it suspends for 90 days a key security measure put in place last May 1 by former President Donald Trump. Biden’s suspension of Trump’s measure makes not the slightest sense.
Trump’s Executive Order 13920 declared a national emergency with respect to the nation’s electric grid and prohibited the acquisition or installation of “any bulk-power electric equipment … designed, developed, manufactured, or supplied, by persons owned by, controlled by, or subject to the jurisdiction or direction of a foreign adversary.” In sum, Trump forbade the use of grid equipment that is made in China, Russia, or other hostile nations.
From the Washington Examiner, February 2021
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:31 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Dim's aren't smart. They think wind and solar are going to make up for natural gas, nuclear, and coal. And this is on top of the gains made in making power cleaner.
We need to get raped by the Paris Climate accord so politicians can get their kick backs while foreign countries pollute more than us.
We need to get raped by the Paris Climate accord so politicians can get their kick backs while foreign countries pollute more than us.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:33 pm to LEASTBAY
Friend,
It takes more energy to heat than to cool the same temperature difference. Moreover, when it is 10 degrees and people are trying to raise the temp in their house to 70, that is a 60 degree difference. At worst in the summer in Texas you’ll have a 110 degree day. Even if someone cranks the air down to 70, that is 50% less delta temperature than if it were 10 degrees.
We have two old coal fire places that we converted to wood a decade ago. Getting free wood is easy, especially this year after the hurricane. It just takes a lot of effort to split it, but it is the best exercise there is. Think training scenes from Rocky IV. I haven’t turned on the heat yet because the hearths have kept the house around 65.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
It takes more energy to heat than to cool the same temperature difference. Moreover, when it is 10 degrees and people are trying to raise the temp in their house to 70, that is a 60 degree difference. At worst in the summer in Texas you’ll have a 110 degree day. Even if someone cranks the air down to 70, that is 50% less delta temperature than if it were 10 degrees.
We have two old coal fire places that we converted to wood a decade ago. Getting free wood is easy, especially this year after the hurricane. It just takes a lot of effort to split it, but it is the best exercise there is. Think training scenes from Rocky IV. I haven’t turned on the heat yet because the hearths have kept the house around 65.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:34 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Being against alternative forms of energy is just as retarded as being against fossil fuels.
Name one alternative form of energy that's not nuclear that can power a stable grid through the kind of use that's being seen right now.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:34 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
When everyone’s plugging in their cars overnight to charge them .. that will be much better right ?
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:36 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
This is why I’m so angry at the Biden Administration, among other things. We aren’t going to be cutting down greenhouse gas emissions by not drilling in the U.S. We just continue to buy more oil and natural gas from overseas for more. It’s maddening.
The government should only be focusing on investing in grid infrastructure improvement.... not fricking solar panels and windmills.
The government should only be focusing on investing in grid infrastructure improvement.... not fricking solar panels and windmills.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:37 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I had a girl I went to high school with tell me that Biden will just develop batteries that can handle all of it. No shite, why didn't anyone else think of it?
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:37 pm to Btrtigerfan
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Solar panels- Covered in snow and its cloudy. Wind turbines-frozen.
Everybody keeps pointing this out likes it’s not a known quantity and modeled around. This is all built into the production simulation modeling.
What isn’t accounted for is natural gas supply not functioning properly and 26GW of NG turbines being down.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:37 pm to jcaz
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The government should only be focusing on investing in grid infrastructure improvement.
This helps the US.
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not fricking solar panels and windmills.
This helps China.
And now you have your answer.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:38 pm to Warfarer
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I had a girl I went to high school with tell me that Biden will just develop batteries that can handle all of it
Did uhhhhh, did you go to one of those special high schools they have in strip malls next to Papa Johns
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:40 pm to jcaz
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The government should only be focusing on investing in grid infrastructure improvement.... not fricking solar panels and windmills.
Generations at the point of demand, i.e resi solar is probably the best thing that could happen for grid stability. And even better with storage bolted on.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:40 pm to Shlomo Shekelberg
No. some of us aren't retarded. She is the type of person that goes to England for a weekend and comes back with a shitty British accent. And she moved to Colorado and became a hard left idiot.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:42 pm to billjamin
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Generations at the point of demand, i.e resi solar is probably the best thing that could happen for grid stability.
This is simply not feasible. At all. Potentially for rural/exerb/suburb single family homes in high sun areas, sure. But for major urban areas in most of the US (where most of the population lives)? Not even remotely possible.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:43 pm
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