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re: EBRP Deputy shot on O'Neal lane.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:12 pm to HeadCoach
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:12 pm to HeadCoach
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Any body know why this guy has not been charged with murder?
Maybe they are determining whether it should be 1st or 2nd degree murder. He may be in the hospital a while so there's no rush.
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:15 pm to HeadCoach
DISCLAIMER:
***I'm not connected to any law enforcement agency or a lawyer. This is all just my opinion based on watching Law & Order repeats.***
His bail was at $475,000. I doubt he's going anywhere. If it looks like he's going to post bond, I'm sure they'll charge him for the homicide and get his bail increased.
Edit: The info above about the bail amount is wrong. I had Wiley mixed up with Herrara, KKG kidnapper.
In the meantime, I guess the DA's office is taking their time to charge him with the most appropriate crime. If he shot the deputy, I'm sure that'll be 1st or 2nd Degree Murder. (I think in LA killing an LEO is considered "special circumstance" and allows the charge of 1st Degree Murder.)
If during the altercation, the Deputy was shot by the other Deputy or was somehow killed by his own gun, I'm not sure what will happen as far as a homicide charge goes. But what WON'T happen is this guy going home. He'll either die of his wounds or end up in Angola.
***I'm not connected to any law enforcement agency or a lawyer. This is all just my opinion based on watching Law & Order repeats.***
His bail was at $475,000. I doubt he's going anywhere. If it looks like he's going to post bond, I'm sure they'll charge him for the homicide and get his bail increased.
Edit: The info above about the bail amount is wrong. I had Wiley mixed up with Herrara, KKG kidnapper.
In the meantime, I guess the DA's office is taking their time to charge him with the most appropriate crime. If he shot the deputy, I'm sure that'll be 1st or 2nd Degree Murder. (I think in LA killing an LEO is considered "special circumstance" and allows the charge of 1st Degree Murder.)
If during the altercation, the Deputy was shot by the other Deputy or was somehow killed by his own gun, I'm not sure what will happen as far as a homicide charge goes. But what WON'T happen is this guy going home. He'll either die of his wounds or end up in Angola.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:59 am
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:17 pm to Hangit
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I do know that in his conviction for aggravated battery he shot two people and was pled down from two attempted murder charges.
I also know what he did to the 10 year old girl that he pled down to Inciting a felony for.
He also pled down in federal court for a convict with a gun and was given two years. For each crime there was plenty of witnesses or evidence to go after him strong. They conveniently went weak.
There's no doubt the charges were pled down significantly. Wish I could find out the details of these cases in re the prosecution's evidence & if there was some sort of issue with admission of it in trial and/or credible & cooperative witness issues, which is what it sounds like on the surface, especially the "going weak" part. ... And I'm wondering if the young girl's family just didn't want to put her through the trauma of trial, which is absolutely understandable. ... Federal court is a different animal altogether, and the 2-year sentence is an abomination. I know of people who have done 5 yrs. for having marijuana and a rifle & shotgun in their homes, simultaneously, who had never been convicted of violent felonies or firearms crimes.
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It is time for all the coddling and light punishment to end. Obviously, a short stint in prison is not a deterrent. If the punishment is strong enough to create fear of committing a crime they will stop.
Agreed. All I'm saying is that most of the time, prosecutors don't relish the idea of making deals with violent criminals, particularly ones who have been convicted or even arrested for violent crimes previously. Generally, they do when something has gone wrong with witnesses regarding credibility & cooperation and/or evidence, whether it's an issue of admissibility due to whatever myriad of technicalities a judge might rule on or mistake in evidence gathering, etc., and their case has been weakened to the point of questioning a conviction at all.
I don't know the particulars of this POS's past criminal cases; I wish I did, but hopefully, there will be no reason for any deals in this one, and the state will seek the death penalty & get it, no issues. And yes, it's beyond horrible that an officer doing his job suffered the ultimate consequence of an absolutely imperfect judicial system which allowed this filth on the street. Hopefully the decisions for the pleas in his prior cases will be scrutinized thoroughly by all involved.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:24 pm to Arkla Missy
Ftr, any chance this guy is tied in, somehow? Last name, etc?
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:28 pm to Ole Geauxt
Not sure.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:30 pm to Arkla Missy
We can wonder about it all day Missy. We still will not know. That is why I am saying that it is time for those who do know to step forward and tell why they did not put him away for a long time.
It reeks of the percentage game. Going to trial only for a slam dunk needs to stop.
Let the light shine on what was done. Full, invasive disclosure of the trail that got us to here is warranted. Otherwise it can never get better.
It reeks of the percentage game. Going to trial only for a slam dunk needs to stop.
Let the light shine on what was done. Full, invasive disclosure of the trail that got us to here is warranted. Otherwise it can never get better.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:33 pm to Hangit
Unfortunately, 2000 "warranteds" and a buck fifty will buy you a cup of coffee, sad, but, true.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:38 pm to Hangit
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Let the light shine on what was done. Full, invasive disclosure of the trail that got us to here is warranted. Otherwise it can never get better.
I agree with that.
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It reeks of the percentage game. Going to trial only for a slam dunk needs to stop.
A smart prosecutor knows there is no such thing a a slam dunk. When an arrogant one believes there is, is when he'll get his arse handed to him at trial, and will do an injustice to the victim & family.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:44 pm to Arkla Missy
Dig!
Some kind of decision will surely be made tomorrow, re: that pos.
Some kind of decision will surely be made tomorrow, re: that pos.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:46 pm to Ole Geauxt
Yes, definitely am. Anxious to find out.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:48 pm to Arkla Missy
Definitely huh? Lemme know what you find out.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:32 pm to White Roach
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White Roach
Wrong case. The 475k bond is for the LSU kidnap/rapist not brandon wiley's sorry arse.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:39 pm to phil good
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Wrong case. The 475k bond is for the LSU kidnap/rapist not brandon wiley sorry arse.
Thought that sounded awfully low.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:42 am to phil good
You're correct. I got the two mixed up.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:07 am to White Roach
Does La, have the law where if some one dies while u were committing a crime, it is an automatic 1st degree murder charge?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:39 am to SeeeeK
I believe the law you are referring to is the one where if you are in the act of committing a felony and someone dies, regardless if you directly killed them or not, you can be charged with their death. And yes LA has this law.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:00 am to MikeBRLA
Something doesn't seem right here. In addition to the lack of charging him for murder, check out this article in The Advocate. It notes that even the police report doesn't say anything about the perp shooting the officer -- only that his injuries resulted from handcuffs during the act of being detained.
This, combined with a rumor I've heard that he pulled a gun and the officer was shot during a struggle for control of the gun, has me wondering: Did he shoot himself? Did the other officer accidently shoot him during the struggle? If nothing else, maybe this explains the delay in charging him.
This, combined with a rumor I've heard that he pulled a gun and the officer was shot during a struggle for control of the gun, has me wondering: Did he shoot himself? Did the other officer accidently shoot him during the struggle? If nothing else, maybe this explains the delay in charging him.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:47 am to SlackMaster
Just catching up. Wow the shooter is a POS. My condolences to the brace cop/heros fan. True patriot.
Glad this isn't a racial incident and that heh found the shooter
Glad this isn't a racial incident and that heh found the shooter
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:49 am to StrongSafety
quote:maybe to you it isn't
Glad this isn't a racial incident
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:59 am to ForeverLSU02
Immnot going to overshadow the loss of an officer and the pain the community and his family feels with politics, posturing, and divisiveness.
If I'm missing elements, please let me know what I'm missing
If I'm missing elements, please let me know what I'm missing
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