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re: EBR School Board and The Advocate angered over Basis Charter School's lack of diversity

Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:03 am to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103111 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:03 am to
:facepalm:

This shite is why I hate both The Advocate and EBRPSS.

If the kids are getting educations and doing well, I don’t give a rat’s arse if they are rich, middle class, or poor.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118229 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:04 am to
Why do they want black kids to go there?


To “get a good education?” lol

They won’t do the homework and fail out.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:18 am to
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If I were the charter school, I would remove race from the application. Just take the highest functioning kids.


Charter schools are public schools. They don’t get to pick and choose they admit and they have to meet all district and state guidelines. Charter schools can (and certainly do) limit who enters the lottery to attend the school by not offering bussing, requiring complitcated application processes, and requiring parent/student service hours.
Private schools have an easier time limiting who attends the schools but are held to extremely high state standards.
Parochial schools (religious schools) do not need to meet most state standards because they have the freedom of religion. States have little say about what goes on in religious schools and has been part of why they are dying out in most places. Reason why there is a huge difference between a parochial school and a private school.
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10403 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:38 am to
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How most get excluded from all of these schools is do not provide a bus system. Free or reduced lunch kids usually do not have a way to school that isn't a school bus.


Yeah man, screw all those KIDS who have parents who depend on a bus to get them to school.


Just a small FYI - Public school (which is a charter school) must provide transportation to school. That has been in effect for several years now.
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10403 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:40 am to
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Charter schools can (and certainly do) limit who enters the lottery to attend the school by not offering bussing, requiring complitcated application processes, and requiring parent/student service hours.


Charters have to offer transportation. Look at the lawsuit against Einstein Academy in Nola East. Also in New Orleans, all charters are on OneApp to actually make it extremely easy for parents to complete an application, and starting next year all of Orleans Parish will be 100% charter - no more traditional public schools.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:42 am to
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starting next year all of Orleans Parish will be 100% charter - no more traditional public schools.


That could be a great thing. Shitty charters get kicked out and the long term costs of teachers slowly gets transferred to the entities that own the charter.
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10403 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:47 am to
Orleans School Board seems to have figured it out (or are trying to, in the least).

EBR School Board is still fighting against charters, which is not the way to go IMO. They should take some notes and figure out how to work together, not against each other. Hence the push for St. George... sadly.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4662 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:52 am to
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Charters have to offer transportation. Look at the lawsuit against Einstein Academy in Nola East.

If that's accurate, BASIS gets around it somehow because they don't have bus service. It may have to do with their arrangement with Womans Hospital.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:53 am to
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If that's accurate, BASIS gets around it somehow because they don't have bus service. It may have to do with their arrangement with Womans Hospital.


Maybe they just have not been sued yet for it.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103111 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:58 am to
Give it about 10 minutes. Once EBRPSB figures that out, they will hire Mary Olive Pierson to file suit.


Or maybe the school gets lucky and they hire Dorothy Jackson instead.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118229 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:00 am to
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Hence the push for St. George... sadly.




Nobody’s sad.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25884 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:00 am to
Can't get out of this shite hole quick enough.


Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10403 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:00 am to
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If that's accurate, BASIS gets around it somehow because they don't have bus service.


It looks like it is up to the local school board, so possibly EBR who is not enforcing them to provide. Orleans requires all to provide. Most if not all charters in EBR do provide transportation.

I would say it's not very fair of BASIS to opt out of it, and not allow families who have no way of getting their child to school a way to attend theirs. That does seem a bit selective/biased.
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10403 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:02 am to
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Hence the push for St. George... sadly.




Nobody’s sad.


Sadly as in, we have had to arrive at this solution for better quality schools. Fairly drastic when other measures could have been done to improve public schools.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:09 am to

An Aizona based private charter is being harolded in Baton Rouge.

Holy mackerel.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17614 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:11 am to
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33 is high. Would never send my child to a school with that many poor kids. They would just be a distraction because their parents don't give a shite.



I grew up receiving free/reduced lunch. My school district was very good.

My parents cared about my education....and theirs.

My parents worked their asses off and got us out of working class/poverty right around my 18th birthday.

Generalizing every family on free/reduced lunch as lazy is flat out ignorant and eliteist
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:20 am to
It's almost as if there is some sort of federal grant money to be had by claiming more poor kids.

Is there? Because the system sure seems like it wants more poor kids in the schools for some reason.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:29 am to
I really hope we can get my youngest into BASIS.
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10403 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:29 am to
Yes, Title I funding is based on the # of free and reduced students you have. The higher the number, the additional funding you receive.

The reason EBR is likely not happy, is because their average % is around 70 or so, and BASIS is 33 - which is obviously not representative. Since it is a district-approved charter, it should strive to meet their demographics, or at least show every effort to be recruiting and publicizing their school out to those demographics.

The issue they are likely running into, is a higher percentage of wealthy families applying, therefore decreasing their overall free and reduced meal percentage.

HOWEVER... learning they don't offer busing is pretty damaging to any efforts they have. All EBR schools offer busing to their campus from within their communities. For BASIS to not have to a) offer it or b) assign money in their budget for busing, seems pretty unfair to me. A bus costs ~$275/day. If you have 10 buses for 180 days/year, that is a half million budget line item. Of course BASIS doesn't want to go that route.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118229 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:33 am to
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Generalizing every family on free/reduced lunch as lazy is flat out ignorant and eliteist




First of all, nobody gives a shite about your childhood. You’re not an authority on free or reduced lunch.

Second, having grown up on Long Island, you fail to see the reality of EBR schools and what the free or reduced lunch moniker represents. It’s not lazy or ignorant. It’s an informed realization to accept the fact that these students represent the worst of society, and with very few exceptions be on a 1st grade reading level by the time they are 12 years old.
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