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re: EBR School Board and The Advocate angered over Basis Charter School's lack of diversity

Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:35 am to
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:35 am to
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The reason EBR is likely not happy, is because their average % is around 70 or so, and BASIS is 33 - which is obviously not representative. Since it is a district-approved charter, it should strive to meet their demographics, or at least show every effort to be recruiting and publicizing their school out to those demographics.

EBR public schools definitely don't match the demographics of the surrounding area. Take a school like Tara. That area is probably 80+% white and the school is 85% black.
Posted by PrettyBird
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:40 am to
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EBR public schools definitely don't match the demographics of the surrounding area. Take a school like Tara. That area is probably 80+% white and the school is 85% black.


Which is a whole 'nother issue, right? It is a sad fact that our public schools are so terrible that families chose to send their kids (when they have the means to) 10+ miles outside of their neighborhood to a $10K/year school. The Tara kids are all bused in.

It's even sadder that the families without those means, are stuck sending their kids to these terrible schools, and thus the cycle continues.

Ideally your kid could walk on down to their local school and get a good education.

That will never happen in EBR.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:40 am to
Hey
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:44 am to
Could’ve happened at some point in the 70s but Judge Parker decided that bussing the entire goddamn parish 2 hours a day to meet some magical formula was the better solution.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:46 am to
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Which is a whole 'nother issue, right? It is a sad fact that our public schools are so terrible that families chose to send their kids (when they have the means to) 10+ miles outside of their neighborhood to a $10K/year school. The Tara kids are all bused in.

I'm on year 8 of 13 of private school tuition

We could move to the suburbs if we wanted to and use public schools but it's convenient to avoid most of BR traffic.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:46 am to
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Exactly, so you cannot say you didn't know you were only hiring white or asian people. If able to leave it off you can just say we don't look at race and hire only the best but you'd end up with only white and asian and that isn't good. So, you have to have it on application so you cannot ignore it and plead ignorance to race.


Wait so you’re saying if hiring the best candidates by measurable metrics is racist if the best candidates happen to all be white or Asian?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:47 am to
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Could’ve happened at some point in the 70s but Judge Parker decided that bussing the entire goddamn parish 2 hours a day to meet some magical formula was the better solution.

And the schools are more segregated now than they were back then
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:47 am to
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extremely high state standards.


Bruh this is LA
Posted by member12
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:48 am to
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EBR School Board is still fighting against charters, which is not the way to go IMO. They should take some notes and figure out how to work together, not against each other.


TogetherBR is one of those ironically named organizations.
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10358 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:50 am to
HAY GTG

BASIS is going to have a real problem on their hands, and I guarantee you will see that 33% move upwards after this. They will have to do a lottery that gives the first X% to free and reduced students, and once they meet their quota, move to the next round in the lottery.

EBR will put pressure on them to do so and hold future school openings against them. Another successful charter in Jefferson Parish went through this, JPPSB basically forced them to attempts to raise their FRL% to better meet the district which was ~85%.

I foresee buses in BASIS future.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:51 am to
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Since it is a district-approved charter, it should strive to meet their demographics, or at least show every effort to be recruiting and publicizing their school out to those demographics.


Why?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:52 am to
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That area is probably 80+% white and the school is 85% black.


Thank you federal desegregation laws
Posted by PrettyBird
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:55 am to
Because the district wants them to have the same struggles they deal with.

I actually don't know the reasoning behind that. There is reasoning... just can't promise it's logical.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:56 am to
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Thank you federal desegregation laws

Yep - that's the school we are zoned for. The graduation rate is like 50%
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:58 am to
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Could’ve happened at some point in the 70s but Judge Parker decided that bussing the entire goddamn parish 2 hours a day to meet some magical formula was the better solution.

How do you fix this today? How do you get everyone to come back to public schools instantly so that the schools are representative of their neighborhoods? Because that is the real fix, just no one seems to know how to do it.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:03 am to
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How do you fix this today? How do you get everyone to come back to public schools instantly so that the schools are representative of their neighborhoods? Because that is the real fix, just no one seems to know how to do it.

Agreed. Our school districts are so gerrymandered it's ridiculous. Tara goes from Gus Young to UClub
Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10358 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:03 am to
Have a hurricane barrel through and literally wipe the slate clean? Hand pink slips to all staff, re-create the entire school board and put everyone back at square one.

Since that won't be happening and we can't get corruption out of the entire state much less a local school board and local government... not possible.

I hate having that outlook, but it would take every person in our communities throughout Baton Rouge to stand up for these schools and start supporting that mission. That means no more galas and school fundraising fairs for our private schools, and supporting public with our money, time and expertise. Do you think that will ever happen?

Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:08 am to
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It’s an informed realization to accept the fact that these students represent the worst of society


Really? the WORST of society...

Frick off with your hyperbole.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:09 am to
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Have a hurricane barrel through and literally wipe the slate clean?



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Do you think that will ever happen?



Yep
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 11:10 am to
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Exactly, so you cannot say you didn't know you were only hiring white or asian people. If able to leave it off you can just say we don't look at race and hire only the best but you'd end up with only white and asian and that isn't good. So, you have to have it on application so you cannot ignore it and plead ignorance to race.



You are an idiot. First off all, soft bigotry of low expectations much? Hiring only the best will end up with only whites and asians? Let me guess - you think voter ID laws are racist? Are you a white knight or a plantation minority? Do you scream that others are racists while your actual feelings about minorities show that you feel they cannot do for themselves. That they do not stand a chance in a merit based society? I'm guessing you're a white liberal.

MERIT BASED hiring -- is what should happen 100% of the time. 100%. May the best man/woman win. Remember that? How novel. Leaving race off of applications would do just that.

Would you like to know the REAL REASON demographics are requested on applications??? It is called TAX BREAKS. Companies receive huge benefits to hire minorities. This is why race is on the application.

It doesn't HURT minorities --- it helps them. Only a moron, such as yourself, would not understand this.
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