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re: EBR Library people about to be big mad! Mayor wants their tax money to fund police raises.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:00 am to jbgleason
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:00 am to jbgleason
Huge problem here is that if the EBR parish library system is sitting on a $ 100 million surplus and it is not being invested safely somewhere?
Many of us could invest that money and increase it substantially in a years’ time.
This surplus should be invested and the returns could be use to fund a raise for the city police.
Also it might be pointless to have world class libraries if we have to duck and dodge high velocity ammo flying about to get to the library and then be robbed/shot/ killed / carjacked/ raped in the library parking lot.
Many of us could invest that money and increase it substantially in a years’ time.
This surplus should be invested and the returns could be use to fund a raise for the city police.
Also it might be pointless to have world class libraries if we have to duck and dodge high velocity ammo flying about to get to the library and then be robbed/shot/ killed / carjacked/ raped in the library parking lot.
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:07 am to SantaFe
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Huge problem here is that if the EBR parish library system is sitting on a $ 100 million surplus and it is not being invested safely somewhere? Many of us could invest that money and increase it substantially in a years’ time. This surplus should be invested and the returns could be use to fund a raise for the city police. Also it might be pointless to have world class libraries if we have to duck and dodge high velocity ammo flying about to get to the library and then be robbed/shot/ killed / carjacked/ raped in the library parking lot.
The money should be safely invested in conservative investments. No equities, etc.
But the taxes to raise thismoney were voted on by the people to go to the libraries. It should stay eith the library and be used to offset maintenance expenses and other one time expenses. The Millage for the library could be lowered at the same time.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:08 am to Lickitty Split
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He is literally putting it on the ballot.
So what? I don't want to have to choose between libraries and police, that's what he's putting on the ballot - whether or not he should take the money from the library fund. That's not what I suggested.
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You’re pretty fricking stupid.
That may be, but not as stupid as you.
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Libraries are chalk full of waste
Why am I not surprised you're arguing against literacy?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:17 am to HouseMom
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This was a reason the St. George movement even got any traction. Kind of messed up to take an allocated millage that was voted on and just "reallocate" it to BRPD. So I have to keep paying my library money on my property taxes so BRPD can still not come to my house if I call 911? Lol okay. What am I missing?
You’re missing that this would be voted on, not just “reallocated.”
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:35 am to jbgleason
Baton Rouge needs as many libraries and police officers they can get.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:07 am to SantaFe
quote:They’re not just “sitting on this money” with nothing to show for it. This money was strategically saved over multiple years to allow them to go forward with several projects including renovations to several libraries, routine maintenance including replacing the roofs of older libraries, as well as other construction projects. The library actually budgeted for these projects in advance (what a novel idea) so that they would not have to borrow any money for these future projects. So the reward they get for being financially prudent is to get the money taken by other departments that have wasted their own budgets. What a bunch of hypocrites some of you are!
Huge problem here is that if the EBR parish library system is sitting on a $ 100 million surplus and it is not being invested safely somewhere?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:07 am to whoa
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Last week, the mayor pitched moving money currently dedicated to Baton Rouge's library system to fund raises for BRPD officers.
If it's a vote, fine, but this money needs to come from properties within the BR city limits.
All I can say is some of y'all need to turn your tax bills over and see what you're paying for in actual dollars. Would you be cool with writing that check directly to each specific agency every December?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:31 am to StatMaster
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They’re not just “sitting on this money” with nothing to show for it. This money was strategically saved over multiple years to allow them to go forward with several projects including renovations to several libraries, routine maintenance including replacing the roofs of older libraries, as well as other construction projects. The library actually budgeted for these projects in advance (what a novel idea) so that they would not have to borrow any money for these future projects. So the reward they get for being financially prudent is to get the money taken by other departments that have wasted their own budgets. What a bunch of hypocrites some of you are!
First I don’t recommend taking the Librsry surplus. Like you posted it is there for future library needs.
But what are our real needs? Maintenance? Sure. New public libraries? No, we are well served now. I don’t see people complaining about the service we receive.
Reduce the millage as recommended by our mayor. Don’t let librarians dictate what’s best for us. There are more pressing needs than more libraries.
I’m sure our system will be just fine for the next ten years given the tax dollars they have and what they will receive.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:40 am to SantaFe
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Huge problem here is that if the EBR parish library system is sitting on a $ 100 million surplus and it is not being invested safely somewhere?
Many of us could invest that money and increase it substantially in a years’ time.
This surplus should be invested and the returns could be use to fund a raise for the city police.
Also it might be pointless to have world class libraries if we have to duck and dodge high velocity ammo flying about to get to the library and then be robbed/shot/ killed / carjacked/ raped in the library parking lot.
Im looking at the 615 employees of the Library branch right now. Just exported the payroll data for 2024 and will do my own analysis.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 10:41 am
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:47 am to jizzle6609
Community Outreach Specialist had gross pay of $103,502 with $33,465 in overtime pay. Led the entire library system of Baton Rouge in 2024, hard worker.
This is just 5 mins people.
Waste, so much waste you will want to throw up.
This is just 5 mins people.
Waste, so much waste you will want to throw up.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:53 am to jizzle6609
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Community Outreach Specialist had gross pay of $103,502 with $33,465 in overtime pay. Led the entire library system of Baton Rouge in 2024, hard worker.
Somebody making that much as a public servant should not be eligible for OT pay. Especially since it sounds like most employees of the library system received comp time at most for extra work.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:57 am to jizzle6609
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Community Outreach Specialist
What would an outreach specialist do for 100K plus benefits and why the need for do much OT?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:26 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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Somebody making that much as a public servant should not be eligible for OT pay. Especially since it sounds like most employees of the library system received comp time at most for extra work.
No shite.
Like I said, Ive seen the books in multiple parishes which means I know how the spending is going in all parishes.
The only thing that changes are the families that have buisnesses within the parishes that are getting the contracts.
Also, this was just the leader in overtime. There are at least 10 people making over $100,000 in the library system currently.
They have over 61 librarians ranging from Level 1 - Level IV (only 1 or 2 here)
5-6 Assistant Directors making nearly $100,000.
Government workers are good at lying to their neighbors about pay. They will act like they are very poorly paid and in certain professional areas that is true.
That said, medicore jobs is the bread and butter for lazy people. You get jobs making 65K plus cola each year and not do much of anything. Then after your 10 you qualify for penison.
I am not saying all of these are not needed, but 600+ employees in the library systems seems excessive. Everything is a racket to keep the jobs even at risk over overspending.
You are seeing this all over the country right now. People working jobs that are paid out of our pockets do not care we are going bankrupt to pay them.
This is why I religiously preach on this site about how shitty the parishes are run. I actually care about peoples money.
To each their own I suppose.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:28 pm to doubleb
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What would an outreach specialist do for 100K plus benefits and why the need for do much OT?
Have a supervisor who overlooks or doesnt care about overtime and blanket signs your timecard. I would search for collusion here.
I know in one parish, a person was told not to even send out overtime reports to division managers within the parish.
Literally told, do not send out these overtime reports because the Director keeps getting angry calls about the overtime from other managers. My jaw hit the floor, isnt that what the Controller/Director is supposed to do? Get the people in line with spending?
Not the case as sad as it is.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:02 pm to jizzle6609
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jizzle6609
If you're not Chris Nakamoto, WAFB should probably give you his job, lol.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:15 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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f you're not Chris Nakamoto, WAFB should probably give you his job, lol.
Negative, I am just Finance Bum working a low stress job enjoying life.
I have worked in many areas of Finance for many types of companies so I typically know where to look and how they lie to the average folk.
I would be any cities worst nightmare if I was that Naka guy. I dont lie, and you cant buy me.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:06 pm to jizzle6609
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I am not saying all of these are not needed, but 600+ employees in the library systems seems excessive. Everything is a racket to keep the jobs even at risk over overspending.
I can’t speak for other libraries but at my local one, it’s definitely overstaffed. They don’t even check out your books for you anymore, you do it yourself. So why are there so many workers sitting behind desks?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:13 pm to jizzle6609
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There are at least 10 people making over $100,000 in the library system currently.
They have over 61 librarians ranging from Level 1 - Level IV (only 1 or 2 here)
5-6 Assistant Directors making nearly $100,000.
I count only five people earning over $100,000 for 2024. There's been a Library Director and two Assistant Directors for the entire system for decades. I think one assistant oversees library services for the system + the Main Library on Goodwood and the other oversees operation of all the library branches. The people with Librarian III and Librarian IV positions are almost all branch managers or supervisors of branch managers.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:33 pm to whoa
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I am not saying all of these are not needed, but 600+ employees in the library systems seems excessive. Everything is a racket to keep the jobs even at risk over overspending.
I can’t speak for other libraries but at my local one, it’s definitely overstaffed. They don’t even check out your books for you anymore, you do it yourself. So why are there so many workers sitting behind desks?
Because its about keeping the economy going albeit at our demise.
People have to have jobs but the people the government employs are not as qualified as the folks that go private where there is competition.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:35 pm to whoa
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I am not saying all of these are not needed, but 600+ employees in the library systems seems excessive. Everything is a racket to keep the jobs even at risk over overspending.
I can’t speak for other libraries but at my local one, it’s definitely overstaffed. They don’t even check out your books for you anymore, you do it yourself. So why are there so many workers sitting behind desks?
For over a year I have made overstaffing comments about the parishes at least a dozen times.
Everyone tells me to GFM and I say ok.
I know I am right, Ive seen the hard numbers.
People dont want to make the hard, honest, decisions. They want to give jobs to anyone and everyone regardless of quality.
You have all this $$ sitting in the library and you vastly overstaffed.
You think anyone is going to rock the boat of the library being overstaffed when the have $60mm in cash on the books? Nope. Not how the game is played.
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