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re: EBR Library people about to be big mad! Mayor wants their tax money to fund police raises.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:41 am to domesticengineer
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:41 am to domesticengineer
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You can oppose this resolution here BRLA.gov resolution number is 25-00187, the meeting date is 3/12/2025. With cuts to funding, I have heard that the library plans to only operate Monday through Friday 9 to 5 which would cut out all evening and weekend activities, as well as cut out the opportunity to use the meeting spaces like we do for Cub Scout meetings.
What amount is this plan based on? Millages? Do they keep surplus? Are they going to build new libraries?
I believe they are trying to scare people.
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:42 am to GreenRockTiger
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they don’t get 100% of their salary after putting 20 years in
It would be actually cheaper for tax payers if most of the library workers do what you suggest.
What is it 2% a year?
That person would be getting at least 80% of the final couple years of their salary, not to mention Id bet big money those people have thousands of hours in sick and vacation.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:49 am to jizzle6609
quote:nope - there are formulas
What is it 2% a year?
At 20 years you go out at like 50% of your salary, and it depends on your age.
quote:and you can only get paid for a certain amount. When you start at the library you earn barely a day a month.
not to mention Id bet big money those people have thousands of hours in sick and vacation.
You keep spewing shite you know nothing about.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:00 pm to doubleb
LINK
They have a robust capital improvement plan on their website. The library system and the public park system in the city are two of the biggest draws for families with young children given the state of the public school system. Every time we enter one of these libraries, we encounter amazing librarians who go over the top to help my kids find books that will interest them. We love attending the activities they host on the weekends and we love using the meeting rooms for Cub Scout meetings when the weather is not nice or if we have to be indoors for whatever activity we have going on. For some children, the library may be the only positive place they have to go, especially since it’s free! Our library system puts on so many wonderful activities for people of all ages, It would be a disservice to take money away from it, especially since we just voted to give to it.
They have a robust capital improvement plan on their website. The library system and the public park system in the city are two of the biggest draws for families with young children given the state of the public school system. Every time we enter one of these libraries, we encounter amazing librarians who go over the top to help my kids find books that will interest them. We love attending the activities they host on the weekends and we love using the meeting rooms for Cub Scout meetings when the weather is not nice or if we have to be indoors for whatever activity we have going on. For some children, the library may be the only positive place they have to go, especially since it’s free! Our library system puts on so many wonderful activities for people of all ages, It would be a disservice to take money away from it, especially since we just voted to give to it.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:00 pm to GreenRockTiger
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EBR Library people about to be big mad! Mayor wants their tax money to fund police raises.
GreenRockTiger
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What is it 2% a year?
nope - there are formulas
At 20 years you go out at like 50% of your salary, and it depends on your age.
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not to mention Id bet big money those people have thousands of hours in sick and vacation.
and you can only get paid for a certain amount. When you start at the library you earn barely a day a month.
You keep spewing shite you know nothing about.
Just read the rules. pre and post 2007. After 07 they screw everyone by using the 60 month average salary.
3% per year. Adjusted for time and age.
Still quite the pension.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:04 pm to domesticengineer
That’s nice and all that would still be available, even with less funding. We don’t need anymore new libraries, the ones we have are sufficient.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:07 pm to jizzle6609
quote:it changed again in 2014/2015 when I worked there
Just read the rules. pre and post 2007. After 07 they screw everyone by using the 60 month average salary.
It’s 2.5% if under 25 years, 3% over
Quit making shite up
Starting salary for the average worker is like $30,000. Maybe you should complain about something else.
We get it. You’re uneducated and don’t like to read - you like to show off with all of your streaming services and not check out dvds or Blu-rays. You don’t have kids that go to school with an AR requirement and the school library cannot keep up with demand.
I understand you fail to see the necessity of a library - but that’s not everyone in EBR. Yes, the library has too much money and they are probably open too much - but that does not diminish the services they offer and you refuse to use.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:36 pm to GreenRockTiger
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they don’t get 100% of their salary after putting 20 years in
It would be actually cheaper for tax payers if most of the library workers do what you suggest.
It's better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to post things like your quote above.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:37 pm to jizzle6609
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Then spread the word like I do until people are forced to face reality.
I don't live in EBR. I talk about this in my own community.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:42 pm to jizzle6609
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Just read the rules. pre and post 2007. After 07 they screw everyone by using the 60 month average salary.
3% per year. Adjusted for time and age.
Still quite the pension.
If you think it is so great why don't you work there?
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:44 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:well be it your homeboy doesn’t understand how government employee retirement works, I’m just going to tell you you’re a fool if you believe anything that arse hat says
It's better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to post things like your quote above.
And while you’re at it, go frick yourself. Preferably not at the library, but everyone has their own fetishes.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:46 pm to chryso
quote:I’d love to see him come up with a storytime and craft. Or teach people to use Excel.
If you think it is so great why don't you work there?
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:49 pm to GreenRockTiger
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well be it your homeboy doesn’t understand how government employee retirement works, I’m just going to tell you you’re a fool if you believe anything that arse hat says
I completely and totally understand how government retirement works, and it isn't saving the public a single red cent. Anyone stupid enough to claim, or even imply, otherwise deserves all manner of ridicule.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 3/11/25 at 12:53 pm to GreenRockTiger
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so wouldn’t you want someone that knows how to read and has maybe actually read books to help you at a library
I should just avoid people that graduated from Louisiana public schools, you're saying?
F no, even with the Dewey decimal system, shite ain't hard, and doesn't need a person that spent 120 credit hours in university to help me figure it out. Goodreads, Amazon and Kobo's recommendation engines, etc., do a decent job, and they don't require hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in staffing.
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it’s really for people that run the libraries - courses include budgeting, management, data analysis and more in depth subjects that are somewhat needed for mid management but not necessarily used
Hm, could have taken some undergrad business classes and accomplished same, if they were used.
Smells like more protectionist behavior from librarians or the HR gatekeepers. They're about 30 years behind the times, at least.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 1:09 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:I said his method of librarians retiring after 20 years would save tax payers money you dolt. He’s under the impression that after 5 minutes of storytime and cleaning up homeless people piss you get to retire at 100%
Anyone stupid enough to claim, or even imply, otherwise deserves all manner of ridicule.
Maybe librarians should get early retirement due to the hazards of their job.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 1:10 pm to domesticengineer
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especially since it’s free
Except that it's not, and this is the point of contention for everyone.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 1:10 pm to domesticengineer
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LINK They have a robust capital improvement plan on their website. The library system and the public park system in the city are two of the biggest draws for families with young children given the state of the public school system. Every time we enter one of these libraries, we encounter amazing librarians who go over the top to help my kids find books that will interest them. We love attending the activities they host on the weekends and we love using the meeting rooms for Cub Scout meetings when the weather is not nice or if we have to be indoors for whatever activity we have going on. For some children, the library may be the only positive place they have to go, especially since it’s free! Our library system puts on so many wonderful activities for people of all ages, It would be a disservice to take money away from it, especially since we just voted to give to it
I don’t doubt anything you have said except the part about why folks move to EBR. Our crime and schools offset any positives our libraries might bring, BR is losing population and the rest of the parish is growing slowly.
We don’t need a robust expansion plan. That means a large capital outlay and eventually more employees. We havee Ed enough right now, but they want to be like Walgreens and build in every corner!
Posted on 3/11/25 at 1:17 pm to LemmyLives
quote:you can avoid whoever the hell you want
I should just avoid people that graduated from Louisiana public schools, you're saying?
quote:I think amazon does
they don't require hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in staffing.
quote:library employees plenty of business majors that can’t get jobs elsewhere - two of my subordinate employees has business degrees
Hm, could have taken some undergrad business classes and accomplished same, if they were used.
quote:well, when I go to the doctor I like to have someone that went to medical school, I like to hire plumbers with plumbing experience, and if I go to the library
They're about 30 years behind the times, at least.
I actually don’t ask for help since I went to lieberry school.
MLIS is about as useless as a MBA in a business setting - experience is what counts. But the ones with the advanced degrees get paid more. Just a fact of life in almost any field.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 1:21 pm to GreenRockTiger
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I said his method of librarians retiring after 20 years would save tax payers money you dolt.
I am the "he" you speak of, and this was my comment:
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Yeah, so they can sit around for 20 years and then live off the pension for another 40 years after.
This was obviously tongue-in-cheek. I am clearly not making the argument that people retiring after 20 years would save taxpayers any money. Nothing could be further from the truth. The ability of government workers to do this is bankrupting governments throughout the country.
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He’s under the impression that after 5 minutes of storytime and cleaning up homeless people piss you get to retire at 100%
No, I am not. The reality is that retiring after 20 years and even earning just 70% is HUGE. No one else can do this. These people work for 20 years, retire, and then get another job in the private sector while earning a pension.
This has HUGELY NEGATIVE EFFECTS on everything. Not only does this cost taxpayers a ton of money, but this also depresses wages because these people can work for less than someone who is not pulling a pension because they don't have the salary needs of the actually productive worker.
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