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Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:38 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Tgrbaitn08 gone be mad at you
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:39 pm to crazy4lsu
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African-American Vernacular English is a legitimate dialect of American English.
No it’s not.
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It has its own conjugation structure and grammar rules
Oh really? What are the rules?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:39 pm to Gaston
I speak in "ebonics" if you will. But there is a time and place for everything. At work and in a professional setting is never the right time.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:41 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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TigerFanInSouthland
I bet you think people in Spain and Mexico speak the same language
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:41 pm to Gaston
I always figured people who use ebonics were just not smart enough to learn to speak English.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I bet you think people in Spain and Mexico speak the same language
Meh, similar.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:43 pm to SelaTiger
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I always figured people who use ebonics were just not smart enough to learn to speak English.
That’s the answer.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:43 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Meh, similar.
No, not really. I know people from both and while they can communicate, its not the same language
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:45 pm to IAmNERD
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Yeah, this means it isn't English.
Amazing.
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I think Boston and New York accents are not English either. Along with any southern accent or dialect. If you take a Florida accent that is an amalgamation of all these accents over a few generations and let that person speak, I think that is the American English dialect. I mean, just think back to middle school... How you read to yourself, just as the words are printed, without your southern/NE/Texan/Yay/Valley Girl accent...That is modern English.
What the frick are you talking about? Do you know that standard American English itself is a dialect?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:48 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
That’s great, but I mean the most widely spoken language in Latin America is Spanish officially. Doesn’t mean that the people speaking castellano aren’t speaking Spanish to a certain degree. It’s just a bastardized and incorrect version of it.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:53 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I know people from both and while they can communicate, its not the same language
I said “meh, similar.” How does them being able to communicate make it not similar? If they can communicate then how is it not similar?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:01 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Oh really? What are the rules?
It shares the same general distinctions of tense and aspect as Standard American English, except it often uses consistent deletions (such as have, from "I've gone to the store to "I gone to the store"), as well as the use of specific words to represent every possible verbal conjugation permutation, such as with "been," which is used with a verbal complement. Other features include an invariant be, a modal semi-auxiliary use of the word "come" (as in "he come walkin") and copula deletion. Another consistent feature of AAVE is that deletion or swallowing of words occurs most often when there is a standard use of a contraction in Standard English. The notable exception for both SE and AAVE is when the final portion of a sentence is a copula.
Those are just some of the repeated patterns (which is what make up grammar rules) that define AAVE. I can explain more if you have any other questions.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:06 pm to gthog61
Ebonics is similar to hillbilly. Laziness and poor education lead to a "new language."
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:08 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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No, not really. I know people from both and while they can communicate, its not the same language
My god.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I ask people from South Louisiana the same question
At least we know an ‘s goes at the end of he and she.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:14 pm to EveryoneGetsATrophy
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She has to relate to her people.
Unfortunately this is too true. She is speaking to "her people" and no one else. Typical of leftist politicians these days.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:18 pm to crazy4lsu
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Do you know that standard American English itself is a dialect?
I'm sorry that you don't understand dialect vs a language that is a standard of its own...
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:25 pm to crazy4lsu
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It shares the same general distinctions of tense and aspect as Standard American English, except it often uses consistent deletions (such as have, from "I've gone to the store to "I gone to the store"), as well as the use of specific words to represent every possible verbal conjugation permutation, such as with "been," which is used with a verbal complement.
That's a whole lot of words...
Explain:
And "he sleep" vs " he is sleeping." Or, he is "asleep".
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:25 pm to IAmNERD
First, your original description isn't an accurate reflection of how Standard American English developed, as SAE is based on the dialect developed in Western New England and the midland regions to Ohio, and combined with some mid-Atlantic pronunciations, based on the mid-Atlantic dialects close association with American theater, and the adoption of American theater dialect into Hollywood films.
The standardization project in the US came much later than, for example, France, which has much more prescriptive definitions, or even German or Italian, which began state-sponsored standardization programs after each country was unified. The project in the US was much more informal, but the notion that SAE is an amalgam of American dialects isn't accurate.
The standardization project in the US came much later than, for example, France, which has much more prescriptive definitions, or even German or Italian, which began state-sponsored standardization programs after each country was unified. The project in the US was much more informal, but the notion that SAE is an amalgam of American dialects isn't accurate.
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