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re: Duterte says he’ll resign as Philippine president if someone can prove God exists

Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

maybe I should have said belief, but in any case, there is no absolute,concrete certainty that can be claimed by either side, therefore both sides exhibit a belief in something that us unknown, which is many times characterized as "faith"...
That's not what faith is.

When you don't believe that something exists because there is no evidence that it does, your decision is based on evidence and reasoning. No one would seriously describe a statement like "There are no leprechauns in my house" as based on faith.

Claiming that something does exist despite there being no evidence for it and claiming that something does not exist because there is no evidence for it are not equivalent statements. We don't have to give both of them the same level of credibility.

In our normal, day to day lives, we don't treat claims made with no evidence seriously because we know that the scientific way of looking at the world is an effective way to judge claims. It's not the same thing as believing a claim based on a feeling or someone else's authority or tradition.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:37 pm to
Does the fact that hordes of Christians aren’t gathering up to behead this cocksmoker and his entire family not count toward the existence of God? I mean hell, let him shite on Mohammed the pedophile in front of a bunch of Muslims, or hell, let him slaughter a bunch of cows in India and see what happens. shite turn him loose at Berkeley, loudly proclaiming socialism is a failure, the democrat party is a failure Keynesian economics is a disaster, Che Guevara was a murderous thug, Bill Clinton is a rapist, Hillary is a criminal who belongs in jail, and global warming is a hoax, see what happens.

God most certainly exists, and most of the people who sling shite about him not existing should be on their knees, thanking him for it. Imagine if Christians were taught to kill and hate and subjugate like Muslims are. There’s about 400 million weapons in this country, and about 389 million of them are in the hands of Christians. Yeah, God exists. The fact that fricks like this, and millions more who revel in shitting on people’s core beliefs without paying the price, is proof positive of that fact.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:39 pm to
Clearly he's never met Tim Tebow
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:39 pm to
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The fact that fricks like this, and millions more who revel in shitting on people’s core beliefs without paying the price, is proof positive of that fact.



What aboot the Middle Ages
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:47 pm to
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What aboot the Middle Ages


What about them? It’s 2018 dude. How does anything that happened a half a millennium ago matter in the least now?
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:47 pm to
Duterte is 100% right! The god of the abrahamic religion is not real and 100% fake news. That also means that hell and heaven is fake news as well, which is true. The god of the abrahamic religion is too narcissistic and promoted as being an inferior god.

Maybe someone will post a selfie with this abrahamic god, but as usually, no one can, because it is fake.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3979 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:53 pm to
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Both sides have exactly the same amount of evidence, tbh... logically speaking, neither side KNOWS, without a doubt, that they are 100% right... both are positions of "faith", since we are dealing with guaranteed uncertainty


You’re wrong. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he does exist.

Bunch of you atheists in this thread are screwed, I’ll try to put in a good word for you
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:54 pm to
He's shooting at one of the three big lies.

The lie he calls out is that there is god, the father whose judgement you should fear.

He begs proof of a mythological characature. He's right.


This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

Duterte


If we couldn't have Trump as President, he'd be the next best
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6371 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

knees, thanking him for it. Imagine if Christians were taught to kill and hate and subjugate like Muslims are. There’s about 400 million weap



Uh.......

Spanish Inquisition?
Crusades?
Encomienda system under The Requeremento?
Slavery?
Trail of Tears?
Jim Crow?
Jeff Sessions?




Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:17 pm to
There are plenty of religions that won't kill if they are ridiculed. how the frick is that proof of a god? All it's proof of is that most Christians are peaceful people. it doesn't prove that your god is real. it doesn't prove creation. all it proves is that Christianity is a somewhat peaceful system of beliefs (now, historically it has been very violent) that a lot of folks find appealing. as david the gnome pointed out, you left out the middle ages. Hell, look at the protestant reformation. the spanish inquisition. Christianity was used as a justification of slavery at one point. indigenous people have been all but wiped out while using your god as a justification for it. Manifest Destiny was viewed as god's will. there are countless atrocities committed in the name of your god. Missionaries carry disease to tribes because omg they need jesus.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 6:18 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:39 pm to
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Uh.......

Spanish Inquisition? 1484-1818
Crusades? 1095-1291
Encomienda system under The Requemento? 1501-1543
Slavery? 1776-1865
Trail of Tears? 1831-1850
Jim Crow? 1865-1965
Jeff Sessions? WTF


So, I’ve added the years for each of your events. Now, would you mind telling me exactly what the frick that has to do with the fact that there are several religions, the proponents of which would be more than happy to kill you for heresy and the like, to apparently include democrat politics these days, yet not Christians?

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:45 pm to
I'm glad to see this.

He's taking on the biggest lie of them all

Next biggest lie is that you are a separate entity. And the other lie is that any object is not part of the one divine person.

There's only god. Nothing else.

All.in.the light.

No big Other
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:56 pm to
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What about them? It’s 2018 dude. How does anything that happened a half a millennium ago matter in the least now?


You, of course, won't see the irony of your steadfast belief in a book written one and a half millennia ago about events that happened two millennia ago.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 7:01 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

There are plenty of religions that won't kill if they are ridiculed. how the frick is that proof of a god?


Feel free to name any of them as powerful, and with as many followers as Christianity. And, once again, this is 2018, and there are billions of people who believe that you and I are only worthy of death if we don’t believe. Today. They will believe it tomorrow, the day after, the year, decade, score, century, and millennium after as well.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

You, of course, won't see the irony in your steadfast belief in a book written one and a half millennia ago about events that happened two millennia ago.


Which has frickall to do with the fact that God does exist or people like me might be taking people like you, and hacking your head off with a sword.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

Does the fact that hordes of Christians aren’t gathering up to behead this cocksmoker and his entire family not count toward the existence of God? I mean hell, let him shite on Mohammed the pedophile in front of a bunch of Muslims, or hell, let him slaughter a bunch of cows in India and see what happens. shite turn him loose at Berkeley, loudly proclaiming socialism is a failure, the democrat party is a failure Keynesian economics is a disaster, Che Guevara was a murderous thug, Bill Clinton is a rapist, Hillary is a criminal who belongs in jail, and global warming is a hoax, see what happens.


God exists because Christians don't get as offended as other religions? There is 0 logical foundation to what you're trying to prove.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 7:10 pm to
488 million Buddhists (Buddhism isnt really a religion, more like guidelines to live in case there is a god)

1.1 billion hindus

they don't have as many total followers as Christianity but they hold a lot of power in some countries


edit: how the hell is the amount of power a religion has over people proof that it is true?



just because Christianity has a lot of followers doesn't mean it's true.


quote:

And, once again, this is 2018, and there are billions of people who believe that you and I are only worthy of death if we don’t believe. Today. They will believe it tomorrow, the day after, the year, decade, score, century, and millennium after as well.




i think that Islam is more ridiculous than Christianity. this isn't a pissing match to see whose magic is better. There was a time when christian apostates and heretics were put to the death. hopefully islam will evolve passed it's extremism the way Christianity did.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 7:12 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 7:10 pm to
We know that benighted people around the globe will kill you for challenging their local mythology.

Its still mythology even if your local parish won't riot over this kind of challenge.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

fact that God does exist

Prove it. Facts can be proven.
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