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Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:12 am to dirtsandwich
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The disease concept of addiction is a lie that this guy bought and sold.
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disease
noun
a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that has a known cause and a distinctive group of symptoms, signs, or anatomical changes.
"bacterial meningitis is a rare disease"
How exactly does the definition not fit addiction?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:31 am to Partha
Stupid fricking idiot.
Too bad he didn’t die.
Too bad he didn’t die.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:35 am to Bamadog75
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know he is eventually responsible for his actions but the bar that kicked him out should have took his keys and called him an Uber if he was that drunk.
Their responsibility is quite clear. Deny him entry or remove him, and he's the NYPD's problem from there.
They can't assume he's going to drive and they can't take his property.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:55 am to Partha
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detailing his rock-bottom experiences with alcohol
I guess his book company gave him the green light for a sequel and he needed some new material.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:58 am to Bamadog75
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I know he is eventually responsible for his actions
What the hell? Is is responsible for his actions from the very second he left his house, got in his truck and went to the bar.
He should die a very slow, painful death and until that point, never, ever ever see the light of day again.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:00 pm to Bamadog75
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Bamadog75
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:08 pm to Bamadog75
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the bar that kicked him out should have took his keys and called him an Uber if he was that drunk.
Even in this absurd hypothetical, the bar never even allowed him to enter. He was in no way their responsibility
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:29 pm to Partha
I feel like NYC would be one of the easiest places to not drink and drive because there are so many other options for transportation. Tragic.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:31 pm to Partha
Was he on the wagon or off the wagon?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:46 pm to Partha
Sounds like good material for a second book to me
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:51 pm to Ed Osteen
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Even in this absurd hypothetical, the bar never even allowed him to enter. He was in no way their responsibility
Yeah it takes a special kind of stupid liberal to blame the bar for this.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:03 am to Partha
He didn't choose prison - prison chose him.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:28 am to Rebel
quote:Many years ago, I had to do a term of supervised probation for a DUI. I didn't wreck into anyone or run over anything, just got busted over the limit on a Friday night. About a year into my sentence, my probation officer literally ran over a wedding reception in progress in her Mustang convertible, killing several people and leaving a high school student permanently wheelchair-bound. NGL, I did feel weirdly vindicated.
Is that “irony”?
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:54 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Well, good morning Yankee Democrat
Not sure if bamadog75 is a democrat, likely not.
More importantly, identity politics (both sides) is delusional and fricking stupid.
Things exist out the spectrum of “republican good, democrat bad”
Edit: looking at bamadog’s post history, he’s conservative. It’s almost like having brain dead ideas can come from amyone, not just liberals.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:08 am to Bamadog75
quote:I think Über should have sent a Killdozer to neutralize him.
I know he is eventually responsible for his actions but the bar that kicked him out should have took his keys and called him an Uber if he was that drunk.
Blame big yellow iron too.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:16 am to Partha
We had a motivational speaker at a National Meeting in pharma that didn't show up for his scheduled presentation.
Security was dispatched to his room and found that he had committed suicide.
Ironic, but I think his chosen career might have been a case of overcompensation.
Security was dispatched to his room and found that he had committed suicide.
Ironic, but I think his chosen career might have been a case of overcompensation.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 12:54 pm to dirtsandwich
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The disease concept of addiction is a lie that this guy bought and sold.
I'm 100% with you on this. To me, being and alcoholic or drug addict is not having a disease, it's a wrong life choice that one voluntarily makes to get to that state.
I can be in a room filled with alcoholics and drug addicts and I won't catch that "disease" if I don't partake in drugs or alcohol on a level where it controls my life.
It is a crutch the therapists have thrown out like a life line to make it seem like it's not the alcoholics or addicts fault--------------because they have a "disease".
My 39 yr. old stepson is an addict. He was brought up right, had a great education at one of N.O.'s better Catholic schools, graduated LSU with a degree in computer science and then got into the white powder. He's been a full blow heroin addict since he turned 25, not long after finishing college. Neither his mother or I do any drugs and certainly didn't condone them when he was living in this house. HE made that choice when finally on his own and now has to live with it.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:01 pm to gumbo2176
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I'm 100% with you on this. To me, being and alcoholic or drug addict is not having a disease, it's a wrong life choice that one voluntarily makes to get to that state.
I can be in a room filled with alcoholics and drug addicts and I won't catch that "disease" if I don't partake in drugs or alcohol on a level where it controls my life.
Is heart disease and diabetes a disease? Is it not something also brought on by an unhealthy lifestyle and poor choices?
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My 39 yr. old stepson is an addict. He was brought up right, had a great education at one of N.O.'s better Catholic schools, graduated LSU with a degree in computer science and then got into the white powder. He's been a full blow heroin addict since he turned 25, not long after finishing college. Neither his mother or I do any drugs and certainly didn't condone them when he was living in this house. HE made that choice when finally on his own and now has to live with it.
I have no doubt he would agree. Doesn't mean he doesn't suffer from a debilitating disease though. Or say disorder if that makes you feel better about it I dunno. Cancer is a disease. It can also be caused by smoking aka poor life choices. Choosing to do something doesn't make the physical consequences not one.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 1:42 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Is heart disease and diabetes a disease? Is it not something also brought on by an unhealthy lifestyle and poor choices?
They can also be passed down generationally. Heart disease runs in my father's side of the family and they were genetically predisposed to it. Then top if off with some of their life choices of smoking and eating lots of fried foods and it aggravated the situation. My dad was one of 5 brothers, and none of them live past 57 with two, my uncle Bootsy and my dad dying of heart attacks at 33 and 35 respectively.
The point I'm making about drug addiction and alcoholism is it's a life choice. If you don't drink heavily or do a shite-ton of hard drugs, you won't catch that so-called disease of addiction.
As for my stepson, he does drugs because it makes him feel good about himself because when not high, he comes to the realization he's a failure at life.
He refuses to get help and claims he can stop whenever he feels like it, but it hasn't happened in 15 years and counting. I'm convinced we'll get the call he's OD'd or got killed trying to buy drugs one of these days.
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