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Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:51 am to JBeam
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I think this is reactionary to the recent events in the news.
what?
ISIS literally has a religion behind it
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:52 am to barry
ISIS.
Religious fervor trumps lust for profit every time.
Religious fervor trumps lust for profit every time.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:53 am to JBeam
Cartels power is derived from them killing family members of those who oppose them.
They would not have the ability to go head to head against a religious radical militarized group.
They would not have the ability to go head to head against a religious radical militarized group.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:55 am to theenemy
quote:Again, I don't think you realize how far reaching the Cartel network is. Especially in recent years with their need for arms and this countries thirst for illegal drugs.
but they are not as strong militarily as TV makes them out to be.
As far as ISIS's military strength. In the beginning they had trained military soldiers because a lot of them were Ex-Iraq army. Nowadays, they are taking over territories and recruiting children. It reminds me of the Somali National Alliance. But on a much larger scale.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:58 am to theenemy
Not always. Many of them have a "no killing of women and children" policy.
I've talked to locals that tell me they'll give an opposing cartel's hideout a chance to evacuate women in children before the show starts. ISIS would just bomb the whole thing and say "inshallah".
I've talked to locals that tell me they'll give an opposing cartel's hideout a chance to evacuate women in children before the show starts. ISIS would just bomb the whole thing and say "inshallah".
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:59 am to JBeam
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Again, I don't think you realize how far reaching the Cartel network is. Especially in recent years with their need for arms and this countries thirst for illegal drugs.
Again, that network is built for trafficking drugs and money. Not for fighting religious zealots.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:00 pm to theenemy
By the way ISIS flaunts their shite on social media, I'm assuming they are a paper tiger compared to the Cartels, who try to keep more of a low profile.
Cartel wipes them out IMO.
Cartel wipes them out IMO.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:03 pm to barry
Cartels.
They are far more powerful globally than people realize and are insanely sophisticated. They outsmart the best of the best of government agencies on a regular basis.
They are far more powerful globally than people realize and are insanely sophisticated. They outsmart the best of the best of government agencies on a regular basis.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:03 pm to Salmon
I would say ISIS has a slight advantage simply based on pure hatred.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:03 pm to Salmon
Are we talking about ISIS's shock & awe ability or their battlefield capability?
quote:Some of the cartels still use LINK. (Granted I get what you are saying. Radical Islam/Idealism is a major force)
ISIS literally has a religion behind it
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:04 pm to barry
If I had choose I would fight with the cartels. At least I can get powered up before a battle
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:04 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:It probably helps when a faction of government agencies are helping you.
They outsmart the best of the best of government agencies on a regular basis.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:06 pm to barry
I think the cartel can cut heads of faster, so them.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:06 pm to TheCaterpillar
Also, let me rephrase, ISIS would win a regional ground war. More people and they have military ground equipment.
Cartels would win in a global conflict IMO. They have political clout (more than you think) in countries all over the world, not just 3 or 4 in the middle east. They have fully functioning wings of their enterprise in countries like China, Russia, etc.
Cartels would win in a global conflict IMO. They have political clout (more than you think) in countries all over the world, not just 3 or 4 in the middle east. They have fully functioning wings of their enterprise in countries like China, Russia, etc.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:07 pm to JBeam
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It probably helps when a faction of government agencies are helping you.
This too. 9/10 countries in the world would secretly support the cartel over ISIS.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:09 pm to upgrayedd
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ISIS.
Religious fervor trumps lust for profit every time.
Don't be duped, those ISIS leaders are as much about money and power as they are about religion.
Sure, the dumbass suicide bombers are all religion, but not their bosses.
It always boils down to money and power.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:11 pm to barry
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Tell them if they take them out ISIS they can controls the heroin trade in the ME.
very nice. I would give them a 20 year lease. You can't promise eternal freedom from the thought-police.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:13 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:Which is why they so easily recruit teenagers to blow up themselves. "Hey, we'll make sure your family has food on the table if you devote yourself to the cause". It's the same old scheme.
Don't be duped, those ISIS leaders are as much about money and power as they are about religion.
Sure, the dumbass suicide bombers are all religion, but not their bosses.
It always boils down to money and power.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 12:16 pm to JBeam
The cartels have the knowledge and the network to operate in the the shadows and black markets throughout the world....they do not have the strength to go head to head with a militarized group like ISIS.
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