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re: Drug Cartels v ISIS: Who wins?
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:37 am to Salmon
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:37 am to Salmon
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the difference with ISIS is the fanatical belief system behind it
That definitely gives them an edge. But people saying ISIS would obliterate them and saying cartels aren't ruthless are out of their minds. And the cartels have a much more reliable and sustainable source of income. It's closer than most in here are saying
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Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:38 am to lsu480
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ISIS would wipe them out in seconds, they have way better weapons and way more people. More importantly that that though ISIS fighters live for battle, are far more experienced, aren't scared of death and are even more ruthless.
Probably the exact opposite is true
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:38 am to Salmon
quote:What governments does ISIS currently control? (If you are talking about territories I get what you are saying)
but ISIS also has billions of dollars and controls several governments
the difference with ISIS is the fanatical belief system behind it
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:39 am to Salmon
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the difference with ISIS is the fanatical belief system behind it
Start trying to frick with the booger-sugar and you will see fanatical. Not to mention, as was stated earlier, that's a deep rabbit hole if you start looking at government involvement. Including our own.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:39 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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And the cartels have a much more reliable and sustainable source of income.
ISIS controls the drug trade in the ME and Africa
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:40 am to JBeam
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What governments does ISIS currently control? (If you are talking about territories I get what you are saying)
I'm just going to assume that Saudi, Iraq, Iran, etc support ISIS in some way
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:40 am to theenemy
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Anybody that says Cartels have lost their damn minds.
The cartels are nothing more than armed thugs that maintain their power thru corruption.
ISIS are militarized radicals.
ISIS would wipe the floor with them
You realize that Los Zetas were founded and are ran by former Mexican Special Forces, right?
Take it from someone who clashed with the Islamists back in the day on their home turf - the Islamic State wants no piece of that. Their line soldiers are mostly a bunch of kids hopped up on chemicals.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:41 am to Salmon
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ISIS controls the drug trade in the ME and Africa
That's news to the cartels then.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:41 am to Salmon
Alot of people point to the idealism, but I'm pretty sure in the rural areas a lot of the muslims are only compliant because ISIS has the power, much like in SA and Mex.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:41 am to AbuTheMonkey
los zetas are ruthless animals, id open line at zetas -175 over ISIS
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:41 am to Salmon
quote:ISIS's main source of income is the oil trade. They aren't on the same level as the S.American drug trade.
ISIS controls the drug trade in the ME and Africa
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:42 am to barry
Cartels. Easily.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:43 am to Salmon
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ISIS controls the drug trade in the ME and Africa
Yeah I don't see that being a particularly lucrative drug market
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:43 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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The cartels employ a whole shitload of former special ops guys from Latin American armies. Those guys are definitely not scared of death and are definitely ruthless. And much better trained.
bullshite.
They have a few tactical guys spread out, but most are just thugs.
They are a rag tag group with strong leadership that is it. They rely on poor untrained thugs that are willing to do what they are told and gov't that want take them on head on.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:44 am to Salmon
quote:I'm not ruling out support in some way. But I highly doubt it's anywhere close to the governments that back certain Cartel groups.
I'm just going to assume that Saudi, Iraq, Iran, etc support ISIS in some way
This is why The War On Drugs is a massive joke and one of the worst things the USA was ever involved in.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:45 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Yeah I don't see that being a particularly lucrative drug market
more than you think
obviously nothing like the Cartels, but ISIS has oil money as well
like I said, they both have money and government support
I just think that ISIS edges the cartels by idealism
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:45 am to theenemy
quote:You are extremely misinformed.
They have a few tactical guys spread out, but most are just thugs.
They are a rag tag group with strong leadership that is it. They rely on poor untrained thugs that are willing to do what they are told and gov't that want take them on head on.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:46 am to dabigfella
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los zetas are ruthless animals, id open line at zetas -175 over ISIS
Zetas aren't that strong anymore. Between rivals and the DEA they have been knocked down pretty hard.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:47 am to theenemy
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bullshite.
They have a few tactical guys spread out, but most are just thugs.
They are a rag tag group with strong leadership that is it. They rely on poor untrained thugs that are willing to do what they are told and gov't that want take them on head on.
You have just described ISIS, exactly.
Posted on 3/24/16 at 11:48 am to Salmon
quote:I think this is reactionary to the recent events in the news. ISIS strategy on the battlefield is actually a joke when they are faced with an opponent that has at least equal equipment and resources.
I just think that ISIS edges the cartels by idealism
As far as their ability to govern the territories that they take over? That speaks for itself.
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