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re: Dropping Harley Davidson sales a sign of upcoming weakness in collector cars?
Posted on 1/30/18 at 9:40 pm to TigerGman
Posted on 1/30/18 at 9:40 pm to TigerGman
I had an R6 I occasionally commuted with. Had to get rid of it after a couple close calls with distracted drivers and my wife getting pregnant. I miss riding and have always wanted a cruiser, but I'm not sure when I'll feel comfortable riding again.
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 9:40 pm to Tigeralum2008
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I’ve forgone my dreams of owning an HD opting to get my private pilots license. Much safer than owning a motorcycle IMO
Cheaper and less maintenance too
Posted on 1/30/18 at 10:23 pm to GetBackToWork
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Guys in their 50's and 60's bid up cars from their youth.
But what do you want to restore from the 80s? I'm 52, my first car in '83 was a '78 Camaro. As awesome as it was, I don't want a restored one or anyhting after that.
Maybe a Chevy Truck from '65.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 10:35 pm to weagle99
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I predict many classic American cars from the 70’s and earlier will start dropping off in value to some degree. For example, how many of you would like to pay top dollar for a restored 1965 Chevrolet Impala? I think the buyers are starting to fade out.
I am not sure considering that pre-War cars are still moving up year after year. Someone would be near 100 years old if these cars were the "poster cars of their youth". I think you are just seeing the cyclical nature of car "fetishes".
Currently, American twins are in a downturn. I still see a lot of riders and a lot of young riders but they seem to be gravitating mainly to Japanese, UK and Euro bikes. I see a lot of lower CC standards. The chopper fascination from 10 or so years ago is dead also.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 10:51 pm to dat yat
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Maybe a Chevy Truck from '65.
I would love a 66 chevy 3/4 ton fleet side. Three on the tree. It's what I learned to drive in.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 10:57 pm to weagle99
Or because motorcycles are extremely dangerous in today’s driving environment.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 10:58 pm to weagle99
I'm buying low on HOG, ball peen hammers, and Jordache jeans.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 6:49 am to Obtuse1
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The chopper fascination from 10 or so years ago is dead also.
Yep, and baggers have been popular for about 10 years now and a couple of friends who are custom bike builders here in AZ have said those are losing popularity as well and their business is suffering.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:06 am to weagle99
it gives me hope to think the boomers are on their way out!
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:50 am to birdieman
Bike market is completely independent from the classic car market.
Posted on 1/31/18 at 7:53 am to weagle99
Cars are far more collectible than motorcycles so you won't see a huge drop off with the economy strong.
HD's issues are 5 fold.
1. Their target customer segment is getting old and they're not riding as much or have the discretionary income to spend on a HD and all the customization. (They can still drive a classic car)
2. As stated the product line is stale. It does not appeal to the next generation of riders.
3. It's getting more dangerous to ride.
4. Most dealerships only care about HD riders and have done nothing to cultivate a non HD environment. They should be broadening their base and that would help with HD sales.
5. The product is significantly more expensive than competitors. As HD loses it's luster, there's a lack of desire to overpay for a motorcycle and join the most expensive t-shirt club.
HD's issues are 5 fold.
1. Their target customer segment is getting old and they're not riding as much or have the discretionary income to spend on a HD and all the customization. (They can still drive a classic car)
2. As stated the product line is stale. It does not appeal to the next generation of riders.
3. It's getting more dangerous to ride.
4. Most dealerships only care about HD riders and have done nothing to cultivate a non HD environment. They should be broadening their base and that would help with HD sales.
5. The product is significantly more expensive than competitors. As HD loses it's luster, there's a lack of desire to overpay for a motorcycle and join the most expensive t-shirt club.
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