re: Driving on ice and snow

Co resident here: slow tf down, no sudden stops or accelerations and you will be ok.

4wd ain’t saving you from shite when you’re feeling better than everyone else and going too fast and then have to slam on the brakes. Just a heads up

My sos awd bmw crossover is the best thing I’ve ever driven in ice/snow. The wrangler with all terrains sits at home once the powder turns to ice on the roads in favor of her car with street tires lol

Did you try putting snow tires on it? I drove a RWD light truck through high school when I lived out west.
We put snow tires on it and threw a couple of sandbags in the rear and it was fine. You won't be climbing mountains, but snow and ice should be manageable.

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4wd ain’t saving you from shite when you’re feeling better than everyone else and going too fast and then have to soak on the brakes. Just a heads up

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Yes. 4WD will help navigate sidestreets, will not help avoiding skidding into a stop. Approach stops at a light due to other vehicles

Heard on the OT:

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Driving in snow is like eating pussy. If you don’t slow down and pay attention, you could slide into the a-hole in front of you.

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People are fricking idiots. It’s not rocket science yet there’s always so many accidents. Use your head dipshits

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would you go with the 4WD F-150 or the Sienna Van?

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Depends on the tires on each vehicle more than anything.

Trucks have a lot of mass to slow down in slippery conditions.

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People are fricking idiots. It’s not rocket science yet there’s always so many accidents. Use your head dipshits

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It's honestly people get into a rush, especially once they think they have the hang of it, and then realize there's a reason you should be going slow in those conditions.

I see it all of the time here. Someone will be hauling arse on the interstate thinking they're good and they hit a patch of ice then spin out.

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How About #6

Stay at home

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Really the best advice.

1. You can't teach people to drive in snow or ice in a post. No more than I could teach someone to hold a 4 wheel drift through a 70mph turn on the track in a post.

2. Snow and ice are a completely different situation and each requires a different approach/set of skills. Snow if like a slow motion version of a very wet road. You combat over and understeer the same way you do on a wet road but you have to learn the skill and your arse is more important than your eyes and hands to know what the vehicle is doing. If you have zero steering input locking the wheels in snow can actually be a good thing, the snow actually builds up in front of the tires and reduces the braking distance, again this is something that needs to be learned and practiced. Late night in parking lots with 3-4 inches of snow does wonders, again not something you can learn without developing the muscle memory, even at the reduced speeds in snow. Ice does not work the same, you generally can't countersteer out of a ice slide because you have near zero traction you generally have to ride it out until you get traction either by getting out of the ice or the speed reduces to a crawl.

The best thing to do if you aren't used to snow/ice driving is stay home, second best is drive 1/4 the speed you normally would. Along with black ice the worst conditions you will encounter is when there has been a good snow and you are getting daytime thaw freeze cycles and the snow has a layer of ice hiding under it. One other thing if you are on the interstate be very careful passing trucks, the snow/slush spray coming off them can produce a a-hole puckering white out when it hits the windshield.