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re: Dr. Jason Karp shows the difference between Canada's Fruit Loop Cereal and America's
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:48 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:48 am to ProjectP2294
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There are people out there that don't know. There are people out there that think they are actually a part of a balanced breakfast as they were allowed to tell people for years.
Fruit Loops is a bad example but there are plenty of “healthy” foods like the Salmon example where they are adding stuff to preserve the shelf life or MUCH WORSE add to the visual appeal of the food.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:50 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Fillers, imitations/replacements for "cleaner" ingredients that cost more, preservatives that increase shelf life so less lost product due to spoilage.
Wood pulp (cellulose) in parmesan cheese as an example.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:53 am to STEVED00
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Fruit Loops is a bad example but there are plenty of “healthy” foods like the Salmon example where they are adding stuff to preserve the shelf life or MUCH WORSE add to the visual appeal of the food.
oh here we fricking go...let me guess fruit is bad too
let me clear this up for you
nobody got fat or had health issues from eating too much salmon. has never happened
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:55 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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(cellulose)
Cellulose is consumed every time you eat a vegetable.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:56 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:55 am to lsu777
This is one of the big policy issues Trump and RFK plan to hit if there isn't another steal.
Going to be funny watching Progressives lobby for big, unhealthy food now just like they lobby for the MIC and big pharma.
Going to be funny watching Progressives lobby for big, unhealthy food now just like they lobby for the MIC and big pharma.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:56 am to stout
quote:That is quite stupid... of you to say.
They are even adding dye to Salmon. How stupid is that?
They do not add "dye” to salmon. They feed them a naturally occurring pigment found in red, orange, and yellow fruits, vegetables, algae, and some crustaceans.
As far as the preservatives, it's a freemarket. Don't buy crap food.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:56 am to lsu777
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nobody got fat or had health issues from eating too much salmon. has never happened
He didn't say that
He asked why is adding dye to Salmon needed.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:57 am to stout
Interesting.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:59 am to STEVED00
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the Salmon example where they are adding stuff to preserve the shelf life or MUCH WORSE add to the visual appeal of the food.
Stuff like this is not common knowledge. I didn't realize how the additives work for salmon until looking it up after this thread. They add chemicals to the feed of farm raised salmon. Ethoxyquin which is synthetic antioxidant which bioaccumulates and preserves the fatty acids; and Asataxathin, a natural carotenoid which gives salmon its color.
Both these additives are added to the feed and not directly. I assume this process has some built in loopholes on reporting and labeling.
Guess we'll try to buy wild caught when we can from now on.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:01 am to NC_Tigah
I simply cannot believe all the people in this thread stating
"Well you don't HAVE to eat it"
That isn't the issue here
The issue is the FDA - which many people believe is an organization that is supposed to look out for them and ban dangerous substances in foods - is bought and paid for by food corporations to allow hazardous detrimental poisonous material into our foods.
The food corporations' goals aren't to provide you healthy nutritious food products, it's MONEY
I am conservative but some of you take it way too far
"Well you don't HAVE to eat it"
That isn't the issue here
The issue is the FDA - which many people believe is an organization that is supposed to look out for them and ban dangerous substances in foods - is bought and paid for by food corporations to allow hazardous detrimental poisonous material into our foods.
The food corporations' goals aren't to provide you healthy nutritious food products, it's MONEY
I am conservative but some of you take it way too far
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:01 am to Piebald Panther
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Cellulose is consumed every time you eat a vegetable.
Parmesan Cheese isn't a vegetable and shouldn't contain cellulose.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:01 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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This is one of the big policy issues Trump and RFK plan to hit if there isn't another steal.
This feels like opposite of the Supreme Court's decision to overturn the Chevron deference. There is too much regulation in some areas but the things that goes into our bodies should be held at a much higher standard.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:01 am to KiwiHead
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Cocaine over sugar!!!!!
Great line.....don't give big food ideas, though.
At least that idea is awesome
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:02 am to stout
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I think with sodas I get more addicted to the carbonation than the sugar. I am not a beer drinker but a good dose of a carbonated beverage after cutting the grass is so good. Even drinking the sugar-free version is still very bad for you, though. I cut them out for like 3 years but recently started again like a crack addict falling off the wagon. I need to stop.
Look into spin drift. Sparkling water with real fruit juice. It’s delicious
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:05 am to lsu777
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who cares? You nor your kids shouldnt be eating fricking fruit loops anyways, not at any appreciable rate. Dont eat that shite and if you do, well....you deserve anything that comes to you.
Honestly, I think this is an out of touch line of thought.
We know all of this information. We are on the internet a lot. Most people in this thread likely read a lot. We are more conscious than most people about the decisions we make, or we at least try to be.
I know it's not our issue directly, but most people, particularly ones in the state of Louisiana, have not adapted to the internet like the rest of the nation. It's evident on a surface level when you want information about a business and you click their "website" and it takes you to the damn facebook page.
It's hard for us to understand, but the average person does not know this information. It seems absurd, but we are in a bubble here. We surround ourselves with like minded people, and yes that applies to the demographic that frequent online message boards.
It's lazy to think that people need to seek this information out for themselves when companies are constantly lying to us about the health benefits of food everytime we turn on a football game. There needs to be more information.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:05 am to stout
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He didn't say that
He asked why is adding dye to Salmon needed.
its actually not
added color does not mean that
farm raised salmon is fed astaxanthin to help it gets its pigment and is actually an antioxidant and is pretty important for farm raised fish
and yes we need farm raised fish. I would prefer wild caught but we need farm raised to be able to feed the amount of people we have on earth
and none of that shite matters....that is not our issue with health in this country and it doesnt cause obesity. our problem is people eat too many calories, dont eat enough protein and do not exercise nor have enough activity period
it is not normal in our country to workout. only about 10% do any form of resistance training.
our physical education in lower level schools are also a huge issue. our overall nutrition education is dog shite too
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:06 am to baldona
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The other way to look at is that America is the leading country in the world in Research and development of new products that make a ton of Americans filthy rich
We are leading in R&D because we are the only population stupid enough to pay for it.
For instance. A new drug hits the market. They charge the US $1000 per unit. They also release the same drug to other countries. Those countries pay $50 per unit. Why? Because the companies make back all their R&D and profit from the US and every other country just gets the benefit.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:06 am to Delacroix22
quote:dangerous hazardous detrimental poisonous material might be an overstatement. Then again, it might not be. But, if there is conflicting evidence, why take the chance?
The issue is the FDA - which many people believe is an organization that is supposed to look out for them and ban dangerous substances in foods - is bought and paid for by food corporations to allow hazardous detrimental poisonous material into our foods.
The food corporations' goals aren't to provide you healthy nutritious food products, it's MONEY
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:09 am to lsu777
quote:A holier than thou attitude from someone who I am sure has no clue what chemicals are in many of the foods sold as "healthy" in the US. It isn't simply about obesity but about dangerous chemicals that the FDA is supposed to be protecting us from that most people are unaware are in their foods.
who cares? You nor your kids shouldnt be eating fricking fruit loops anyways, not at any appreciable rate. Dont eat that shite and if you do, well....you deserve anything that comes to you.
feed your kids eggs and meat like uncured bacon, steak, ground beef, homemade sausage, some potatoes and some fruit in some form in the morning
shite isnt hard.
and as much as i love RFK, his policies(while good) are not going to help the obesity problem. That comes from getting people more active and reducing the appetite for things like fruit loops. We have a Calories in vs calories out problem
people eat too god damn much because they eat dog shite like fruit loops and dont eat nearly enough protien. most normies consider 75g a day or protein a lot.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 10:14 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:09 am to Odysseus32
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Honestly, I think this is an out of touch line of thought.
its not
quote:
It's hard for us to understand, but the average person does not know this information. It seems absurd, but we are in a bubble here. We surround ourselves with like minded people, and yes that applies to the demographic that frequent online message boards.
every person instinctively knows how to eat
if i have two bowls...one full of fruit loops and another with yellow eggs, some beautiful fruit or different kinds and asked 100 people which is better for you....i promise over 90% will say the eggs and fruit.
now half of that 90% would prolly still eat the fruit loops for breakfast
but in the end, its real simple, eat less overall.
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It's lazy to think that people need to seek this information out for themselves when companies are constantly lying to us about the health benefits of food everytime we turn on a football game. There needs to be more information.
im fine with adding labels...but that is not going to fix shite. we already have macro breakdown and then the ingredients....if people are too stupid to understand well....frick em
but dont restrict freedom to protect people from themselves. let them have free will. if they choose to have cereal....oh well.
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