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re: Dr. Jason Karp shows the difference between Canada's Fruit Loop Cereal and America's
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:10 am to lsu777
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:10 am to lsu777
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and none of that shite matters....that is not our issue with health in this country and it doesnt cause obesity. our problem is people eat too many calories, dont eat enough protein and do not exercise nor have enough activity period
it is not normal in our country to workout. only about 10% do any form of resistance training.
our physical education in lower level schools are also a huge issue. our overall nutrition education is dog shite too
Man, I really think you're overestimating how much knowledge the general public has about this sort of thing.
A lot of people out there still think it matters what time you eat at night. I have heard with my own ears in the past 5 years that if you eat at night and then go to sleep, anything that isn't protein is just going to sit on you and cause weight gain.
It's alarming how uninformed people are about this topic.
And that's the whole thing is anytime someone testifies in Congress about health and nutrition, I'm for it.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:12 am to Paul Allen
Butt stuff with S board
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:12 am to NOSHAU
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A holier than thou attitude from someone who I am sure has no clue what chemicals are in many of the foods sold as "healthy" in the US.
yea zero clue
i have the attitude because i dont feed myself nor my kids that dog shite
i understand how calories, macros, etc work and if i choose to eat something like fruit loops...that is on me.
and of course processed crap like fruit loops has chemicals... there arent fruit loop fields out there.
i mean of course somethign like a protein bar has a ton of crap
but many of these chemicals yall claim to be terrible for you .....well its just plain wrong.
look how many still think diet drinks cause you to get fat, its frickign laughable
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:16 am to Delacroix22
Again, the low hanging fruit is HFCS.
Cut that out of the American diet the the following diseases decrease substantially:
Obesity
Cancer
Heart disease
High blood pressure
Type II diabetes
...and all the diseases that fit under the metabolic syndrome umbrella.
This is not hard to identify.
Hard to do because Big Ag, Food and Pharma make a lot of money off of HFCS and its direct and indirect impacts.
Every unhealthy food ingredient is minor compared to HFCS.
I challenge everyone to go three months without HFCS. You will be amazed at the health benefits in just three months.
Cut that out of the American diet the the following diseases decrease substantially:
Obesity
Cancer
Heart disease
High blood pressure
Type II diabetes
...and all the diseases that fit under the metabolic syndrome umbrella.
This is not hard to identify.
Hard to do because Big Ag, Food and Pharma make a lot of money off of HFCS and its direct and indirect impacts.
Every unhealthy food ingredient is minor compared to HFCS.
I challenge everyone to go three months without HFCS. You will be amazed at the health benefits in just three months.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:17 am to stout
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:17 am to baldona
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baldona
You didn’t respond to my question so I’ll ask it again.
Help me understand your position.
So we remove the governmental regulations surrounding the food industry (FDA) in the name of freedom.
You said they could still offer suggestions that we could choose to listen to or ignore in our dietary choices.
But what would you compare those suggestions to? The FDA now has no teeth. That’s the only reason you get nutritional info and ingredient lists. You gonna start googling every product you buy in the aisle to see if someone has done an independent review of the product?
Just buy whole ingredients? How do you know what chemicals were used? People are already suspicious that meat products are being secretly engineered to be in part fake. Good luck with that.
This seems like the self destructive libertarianism I used to espouse. It’s as naive as socialism advocates.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:18 am to Odysseus32
quote:
Man, I really think you're overestimating how much knowledge the general public has about this sort of thing.
A lot of people out there still think it matters what time you eat at night. I have heard with my own ears in the past 5 years that if you eat at night and then go to sleep, anything that isn't protein is just going to sit on you and cause weight gain.
It's alarming how uninformed people are about this topic.
And that's the whole thing is anytime someone testifies in Congress about health and nutrition, I'm for it.
no im not, i talk to people every damn day that dont even understand what a macro is.
like i had a friend that wanted to eat "macros" and asked me for them. when i sent her the macro's she should be hiting....she asked where the diet plan was lol.....she thought macros was a specific diet plan.
its not that i am overestimating...i have just come to the conclusion...most people do not care. they dont care to learn, dont care even if you tell them and are never going to care until they do. and nothing i will say, no label etc is goign to change that
i think yall way overestimate how many people actually care about this
99% of people in this country know they should exercise...yet they dont. go talk to the average construction worker, the average guy in the trades, and let me know if they give a frick
most women will say they do...but 95% are not going to take the time to fix proper meals
go ask the average Black american in nola and see if they actually give a frick
they dont!!
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:18 am to GumboPot
quote:
Again, the low hanging fruit is HFCS.
Cut that out of the American diet the the following diseases decrease substantially:
Obesity
Cancer
Heart disease
High blood pressure
Type II diabetes
bullshite. They will eat sugar or something else.
The low hanging fruit for American health is lack of exercise. I don't mean going to the gym, I just mean walking. Walking around, getting our fat arses off the couch.
Most people really don't realize how much Europeans walk because America is so based on cars, parking lots, and space whereas Europe is based on small centralized neighborhoods and cities where parking is a PITA but walking is easy.
Yes American diets can get better, but until Americans walk and burn more calories nothing will change.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:20 am to Hester Carries
quote:
This seems like the self destructive libertarianism I used to espouse
Do you want people to make bretter choices, or be forced to make better choices?
One of these doesnt change behavior.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:20 am to baldona
quote:
Again, the low hanging fruit is HFCS.
Cut that out of the American diet the the following diseases decrease substantially:
Obesity
Cancer
Heart disease
High blood pressure
Type II diabetes
yea this is bullshite
quote:
bullshite. They will eat sugar or something else.
The low hanging fruit for American health is lack of exercise. I don't mean going to the gym, I just mean walking. Walking around, getting our fat arses off the couch.
Most people really don't realize how much Europeans walk because America is so based on cars, parking lots, and space whereas Europe is based on small centralized neighborhoods and cities where parking is a PITA but walking is easy.
Yes American diets can get better, but until Americans walk and burn more calories nothing will change.
correct
now i will say....if they replaced HFCS with meat, fruit, veggies and carb sources like rice, potatoes and things of that nature....sure
but 99% of people will just replace the calories from hfcs with calories from real sugar. its the same amount of calories
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:21 am to lsu777
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i have just come to the conclusion...most people do not care
Of course. We know. That’s kind of the point. The machine decides what slop we eat for the most part. That’s not gonna change. But now you are essentially advocating against trying to steer the machine towards better slop.
You have to understand the game
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Do you want people to make bretter choices, or be forced to make better choices?
Well one of those is useful and one is a fricking fairytale for children.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:22 am to stout
Americans are being made fat on purpose
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:23 am to Hester Carries
quote:
Well one of those is useful and one is a fricking fairytale for children.
Your solution just keeps failed bloodlines producing.
Thats how we end up with idiocrasy.
Let failed people destroy themselves.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:23 am to lsu777
The problem is the FDA and the USDA and actually ALL govt agencies are bought and paid for by these companies. It first appeared with the food pyramid. But now is full blown idiocy with no independent testing of these 'ingredients' before adding them to our food supply. They just take the large company's word for it and move on declaring it safe.
Same thing happened during Covid with the Vaccine with everyone taking the drug manufacturers selling points as truth. Hell, the same thing has been going on for going on 6 decades with the drug companies. It isn't until a huge screwup where mass people die or are deformed, that they decide to test it independently.
I don't think it's too much to ask that a govt agency at least test these ingredients and backup those test with independent testing before giving their seal of approval. Same with drugs. It should actually mean something if it's deemed 'safe'. Right now, it means nothing.
Same thing happened during Covid with the Vaccine with everyone taking the drug manufacturers selling points as truth. Hell, the same thing has been going on for going on 6 decades with the drug companies. It isn't until a huge screwup where mass people die or are deformed, that they decide to test it independently.
I don't think it's too much to ask that a govt agency at least test these ingredients and backup those test with independent testing before giving their seal of approval. Same with drugs. It should actually mean something if it's deemed 'safe'. Right now, it means nothing.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:23 am to cgrand
quote:
fruit loop consumption remains optional
The point isn't "OMG FRUIT LOOPS!!!1", it's that Fruit Loops are only an example of many other food producers which are doing the same or similar things and that this trend is only increasing and expanding as time goes on. It doesn't stop there though, GMO on meats and produce are also a problem.
So if every bit of food most people have access to is only "optional", then what do they eat?
But getting to that point would mean thinking beyond yourself.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:23 am to Hester Carries
quote:
You didn’t respond to my question so I’ll ask it again.
Help me understand your position.
So we remove the governmental regulations surrounding the food industry (FDA) in the name of freedom.
You said they could still offer suggestions that we could choose to listen to or ignore in our dietary choices.
But what would you compare those suggestions to? The FDA now has no teeth. That’s the only reason you get nutritional info and ingredient lists. You gonna start googling every product you buy in the aisle to see if someone has done an independent review of the product?
Just buy whole ingredients? How do you know what chemicals were used? People are already suspicious that meat products are being secretly engineered to be in part fake. Good luck with that.
This seems like the self destructive libertarianism I used to espouse. It’s as naive as socialism advocates.
or i could just educate myself, educate my family and we make our own decision to buy beef in bulk either from place like sams/costco or even better from local farmer
eat meat, rice, potatoes, fruit, eggs to make up 90% of your diet and get 8k steps and you will be healthier than 95% of people in America
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:24 am to Hester Carries
quote:
Help me understand your position.
So we remove the governmental regulations surrounding the food industry (FDA) in the name of freedom.
You said they could still offer suggestions that we could choose to listen to or ignore in our dietary choices.
But what would you compare those suggestions to? The FDA now has no teeth. That’s the only reason you get nutritional info and ingredient lists. You gonna start googling every product you buy in the aisle to see if someone has done an independent review of the product?
Just buy whole ingredients? How do you know what chemicals were used? People are already suspicious that meat products are being secretly engineered to be in part fake. Good luck with that.
This seems like the self destructive libertarianism I used to espouse. It’s as naive as socialism advocates.
I'm against big government flat out outlawing freedom of choice and freedom of manufacture unless there is very VERY clear direct link to something.
I don't think dyes are good for you, but I also don't think they are nearly as bad in limited amounts as people make them out to be.
My point is that we are comparing the USA to places like Canada and the UK and they are having major issues with government overeach into rights right now.
People are still smoking cigarettes and the government has done damn near everything possible to show them as poison. At some point, you have to let dumb people make dumb decisions.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:24 am to OU812ME2
quote:
The problem is the FDA and the USDA and actually ALL govt agencies are bought and paid for by these companies. It first appeared with the food pyramid. But now is full blown idiocy with no independent testing of these 'ingredients' before adding them to our food supply. They just take the large company's word for it and move on declaring it safe.
no the problem is people eat this crap and dont vote with their pocket book
stop buying crap like this and companies will change
all they are doing is supplying the demand for the product
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:25 am to baldona
quote:
bullshite. They will eat sugar or something else.
Yeah, no.
Get to know the difference between sugars and how each is metabolized then you will understand why HFCSs are bad.
Also, note that fructose is a leptin blocker. Food companies know this.
The reason why fructose is not that bad in fruits is because most of it is bound by fiber and not bioavailable. That is not the case for HFCS.
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