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re: Dr. Fauci pours cold water on Fox and Friends' insistence of hydroxychloroquine cure

Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6904 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:28 pm to
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This will upset a lot of dumb people



Is it more risky than testing for > 1 year? Sure. But, you do realize shutting down this country for much longer will result in a depression the likes of which we have NEVER seen? A functioning economy is not guaranteed in this world. Neither is a democracy.

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This will upset a lot of dumb people


Brush up on your history.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:30 pm to
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So you think the quality of data and evidence that supports the entire world shutting down to prevent the Pandemic spreading faster is the same as the quality of data supporting the hydroxychloroquine cure? You must be a special kind of moron to equate the two.

Your issue is with President Trump. All of this is being done by his order and guidance. Dr. Fauci is not President of the United States. Yet you want to believe there is some elaborate conspiracy to make Trump look bad. Here's the reality: Trump is in full control of this situation. Trump appointed Fauci and Birx to the task force. Trump chooses to listen to their opinions on the impact of the virus in the absence of the measures implemented by the federal government. Trump, Trump, Trump. Sensing a pattern. Maybe you're having buyer's remorse?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:30 pm to
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People want him to say that it is a cure-all and he's not ready to make a blanket statement like that.
He just told us to start using masks when going in public. It's frickin April and he just started saying this?

What kind of tests were completed for him to buy into this.

He/they don't know crap about this. Looks like they could go out on a limb a little for us.

They have gone way the hell out on a limb with their data models!!!
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:38 pm to
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President Trump/ Dr. Fauci
These 2 are not saying the same thing at times.

One is a leader. The other, a doctor and their messages are in keeping with their positions.

Tis the libtards that pit one against the other.

Tis the libtards that are starting shite as usual giving zero fricks about the seriousness of the situation at hand.

Tis a libtard that started this thread making sure to pit the dr. against the president.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:01 pm to
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Dr. Fauci might soon find himself out of a job as a result.


Because he is a quack that says 600+ people in a study is still anecdotal. Explain that.

If I gave 600 men a pill, and every one of them (without changing diet or exercise) lost fat and gained muscle with little to no side effects. Fauci would still say it doesn’t work, and results are anecdotal.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:02 pm to
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Yep, starting at the top with the leader of the free world. Dr. Fauci might soon find himself out of a job as a result.


Trump would guarantee a loss in November if he shitcans Fauci.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6170 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:04 pm to
He's so big on data.

Yet, won't push for random testing of population and antibody testing.

Makes sense.
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6923 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:09 pm to
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This will upset a lot of dumb people
upset there isn't a cure? Yeah, probably.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:13 pm to
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Not all anecdotal evidence is equal. Some prompt actual scientific testing and study. Hydroxychloriquine seems to show promise and some small scale studies in France as well as Some Chinese studies I would classify as dubious because I just don’t trust the Chinese seem to indicate a benefit to those infected.

I trust those French studies about as much as I would trust Chinese data at this point. If you’ve read the studies you’ll see that they are garbage studies by any objective, scientific metric. Sucks, because I’m really hoping the data will show the drugs work, but those aren’t studies you can base that on.
Posted by SouthGATide
Miramar Beach, Florida
Member since Nov 2010
202 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:41 pm to
Can’t you find another moronic catch phrase besides libtard. You bring down the collective IQ on this board by at least 20 points.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5704 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:52 pm to
He also sometimes pours cold water over himself.

In 2013 test on monkeys was good enough for doctors to have another hepatitis treatment combo as an option for MERS.
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The good news is that that the drug combination has been used for decades to treat hepatitis C, Fauci says. So the therapy is already approved for that purpose. "The cautious news is that the number of animals tested is very small — just three animals in each group," Fauci tells Shots. "It would be clearly premature to make any recommendation for treatment based on an animal model with so few [animals] tested."

Still, Fauci says the findings are important because they give doctors an option to try and save a person from MERS. "Individual physicians will have to make up their own mind whether it's worth the last-ditch effort." Ribavirin and interferon together can have serious side effects, such as fever, diarrhea and skin rashes.

In the study, the drugs were given just eight hours after the monkeys had been infected with MERS. So it's unknown if the therapy would be effective after symptoms have already appeared.

But Fauci says that shouldn't stop doctors from considering the treatment. "When you're in a situation that you have a patient dying, you don't ask the question, 'This was used early [in the infection], so should I not try it?' "


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/09/08/219762169/treatment-for-middle-east-coronavirus-works-in-monkey-tests

Jan 21, 2020
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“Bottom line. We don’t have to worry about this one, right?” Newsmax anchor Greg Kelly asked Fauci on January 21.
“Obviously, you need to take it seriously, and do the kinds of things that the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security are doing, ” Fauci responded. “But, this not a major threat for the people of the United States, and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/03/flashback-fauci-coronavirus-us-threat-trump/
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 6:29 pm
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5318 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:49 pm to
Read it how you want but all he did is not hang his hat on it. That is what scientist do until things are proven.There are multiple studies set up around the country and many hospitals in hot spots already using it. I have heard him say that he hopes that reports of it working pan out. Everything is a fricking spin.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:25 pm to
He’s a scientist. He doesn’t piss without doing 99 studies
Posted by Jinglebob
Member since Jan 2020
948 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 10:37 pm to
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We don’t operate on how you feel. We operate on what evidence is, and data is,”


Sounds like Dr Fauci thinks the impeachment was a hoax.
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