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re: Dozens fired from hospital for viewing Jussie Smollett's medical records

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Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76075 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:24 pm to
Star is better than epic.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22313 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Dozens of workers at Northwestern Memorial Hospital may have been fired for improperly reviewing the medical records of Jussie Smollett, who was treated at the emergency room after he claimed he had been attacked by two men.


Geezus....this should be pretty easy to confirm. WTF is the point of posting stories saying you don't know what has happened?

Confirm if they were fired or not. Then run the story.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11893 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:27 pm to
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It’s even better than that, we can watch a screen recording of exactly what the user did when logged into Epic


Ha! That's freaking great.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:29 pm to
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It’s even better than that, we can watch a screen recording of exactly what the user did when logged into Epic

Also,
quote:

Epic Cajun
Name checks out.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:31 pm to
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This story just keeps on tearing up Chicago.

so no more Chicago Med?
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
2096 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:47 pm to
Happens more often than you think...
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10383 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:13 pm to
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Star is better than epic.



Anything is better than Epic. Fricken hate that shite.
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4827 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 3:13 pm to
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HIPAA violations against non-conservatives are serious shite.


Fixed
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:35 pm to
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Anything is better than Epic


Not Cerner....give me EPIC any day over Cerner.


And no way in hell those staff members "accidentally" accessed that chart. Like it's been mentioned...EPIC can trace every single click you make in a chart.

I have to go through numerous patient charts everyday for infection control surveillance. Still freaks me out when I get a break the glass alert. Even if I legit need to be in the chart I still am super cautious.


It isn't just celebrities you need to watch it on. You cannot access your own records or that of family or coworkers just for the heck of it. One of my coworkers...his gf was in the hospital. Our department had to access her chart to do our job. My coworker couldn't touch her chart, I had to do it. Even then...I made sure I only accessed the parts of her chart that I absolutely had to (labs, etc) to do my reviews. Cause I knew IT would be closely looking at what I was clicking on.


Those employees in the original story deserve to lose their jobs. You go over HIPAA rules when hired and every single year as an employee. They can also face criminal and civil charges.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25316 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 8:25 pm to
Even if I legit need to be in the chart I still am super cautious.


if? you want to re-word that nurse?
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15302 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 6:27 am to
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It’s even better than that, we can watch a screen recording of exactly what the user did when logged into Epic


Most workers don't know that's possible even though they're told during GO.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 6:36 am to
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Even if I legit need to be in the chart I still am super cautious. if? you want to re-word that nurse?


I’m just saying that I have to break the glass to access the chart for a valid reason. I know I have to....but it still freaks me out when I see the break the glass alert Sometimes you know why the alert is there, most times you don’t and are like “why is this chart flagged?”

I never access charts unless I need to for my job...sorry if you misunderstood.

I have to access deceased people’s charts all the time for documentation required by our department. I quickly get the info I need and get the hell out of the chart cause I know some of those will be closely monitored by IT.
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 6:39 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37463 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 6:58 am to
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Sometimes you know why the alert is there, most times you don’t and are like “why is this chart flagged?”

Please tell me you aren’t the person who calls the help desk because you are scared to BTG on a chart that you have a real reason to access
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 7:21 am to
Oh goodness no

I never saw the BTG alert until I was in my current job though. When I was at the bedside never saw that.


So the first time I saw it I did kinda internally be like like "wtf" and just asked my coworkers what that meant.


Speaking of EPIC...We are FINALLY gonna get the EPIC infection control module (Bugsy) sometime this year. Never seen a demo of it...just been told it's wonderful. (And expensive)
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37463 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 7:26 am to
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Speaking of EPIC...We are FINALLY gonna get the EPIC infection control module (Bugsy) sometime this year. Never seen a demo of it...just been told it's wonderful. (And expensive)

Nice, I’ve actually never worked with Bugsy, I typically work on the compliance side, so I see a ton of the BTG issues.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24439 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 7:43 am to
I’m not in the medical field at all but one of my pet peeves is calling all of them ‘nurses’. I’d assume that most of the time these firings are Cna’s or LPN’s and not RN’s?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37463 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 7:56 am to
From my experience hospitals don’t really hire many LPNs anymore, these are probably RNs.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32973 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 8:00 am to
Are they, though?
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
23199 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 8:01 am to
IT Systems Admin nerds, are going to get them every time.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 3/8/19 at 8:01 am to
Yeah I don't even know why people waste their time becoming an LPN now. Unless you only want to work at a nursing home or a crappy hospital.

Most reputable hospitals don't want the hassle of hiring LPNs. Hospitals won't receive certain statuses(that help with their reimbursement) if they hire LPNs.


My hospital used to hire them and when I was on the floor it was kind of a pain in the arse having them on the floor. As an RN, you had to give some of their meds for them and sign off some of their charting every shift.
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