re: Don't believe it when AZ police chief said Uber victim “came from the shadows”

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Yep. She's clearly a dumbass and I still support the self driving car.

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if this weren't a self driving car this wouldn't even be a story. the human driver would have not been found at fault.

In the 1.4 second time scale before impact inferred by the vehicle's video, Lidar sensors should have easily seen the person followed by "Radar," or optical using parallax in the visible spectrum. Time enough for the guidance algorithm to process and react but right now only Uber knows. Lidar used this way is far superior to radar or optical.

The vehicle's log file should have already given Uber the answer, whether sensor or guidance failure or both. It will be interesting to know the systems behavior in the 100s of milliseconds leading up to collision, and its reaction before and after.

Assuming the system didn't react at all, Uber has a very big problem.

If the idiot back-up driver wasn’t looking down at something (cell phone, I bet), he/she would have seen the woman way before reaching her.

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I’m not buying the pedestrian is at fault.

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she was crossing a highway at night wearing dark clothes with no crosswalk in sight. pedestrian is at fault. no jury on the planet would convict the driver unless they were intoxicated.

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That said, the car's LIDAR should have noticed anyway.

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Marta Thoma Hall, president of Velodyne Lidar Inc., maker of the special laser radar that helps an autonomous car “see” its surroundings, said the company doesn’t believe its technology failed. But she’s surprised the car didn’t detect 49-year-old Elaine Herzberg as she pushed her bike across a road in Tempe, Arizona, around 10 p.m. on Sunday.

“We are as baffled as anyone else,” Thoma Hall wrote in an email. “Certainly, our Lidar is capable of clearly imaging Elaine and her bicycle in this situation. However, our Lidar doesn’t make the decision to put on the brakes or get out of her way.”

She said that lidar has no problems seeing in the dark. “However, it is up to the rest of the system to interpret and use the data to make decisions. We do not know how the Uber system of decision-making works,” she added.

Recognizing pedestrians continues to be a challenge for autonomous technology, which will be part of the focus of the investigation. Thoma Hall suggested that those answers will be found at Uber, not Velodyne.

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Whole lot of stupid on the OT

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Careful street hawk, you're gonna get down voted by the robot car idiots on here.

No way man, like that car was infallible and no human could have seen that pedestrian ever!!!111!!

Robots are better!! Uber is my God now!

Like that woman was breaking the law and shite and deserved to be killed by a robot car that never braked or slowed down.

Humans are dumb cattle anyway.

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Yep

It doesn't matter if she came from outer space, that car should be able to pick up a human before it was 10 feet from the road, and have it already picked up and car stopped.


Super fail by uber and the nerds who thought the device was perfected. a HUGE FAIL

Set up by the baby boomers. They're scared of technology

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As sad as this is, hopefully, it will serve the greater good of shitcanning self-driving cars.

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why wouldn’t people want them.

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Some people actually like driving and actually doing things throughout the day? I have no issues with having self driving cars as long as those of us who actually want to drive still have that option. I don’t need more time to frick around on my phone.