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re: Dog Help Advice Needed- Growling and Baring Teeth

Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:23 am to
Posted by LSU_Smash_the_West
Nawwwlins
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:23 am to
Hey man... it could very well be challenging you. But I had a 2.5 year old bullmastiff was an excellent dog started to do the same with me. Come to find out she had cancer of the jaw bone and a tumor inside of her ear. It devastated me. Just get your dog checked out. It may be nothing but bad habits but it wouldn’t hurt to get the dog checked out just in case it has some underlying issues.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17083 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:25 am to
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Then started baring his teeth
This calls for a sleeper hold.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:36 am to
Chances are that your dog is in pain and dealing with some sort of physical ailment that you can't see. That's what happened with my lab back years ago. He started growling, showing his teeth, and eventually snapping. Turns out he had developed arthritis in his spine and he had an enlarged prostate. We got him on meds and he was back to his normal, sweet self.
Posted by zuluboudreaux
God’s country USA
Member since Jan 2008
677 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 7:24 am to
Is the dog dragging it’s arse on the ground? Could be an anal gland issue. Ours have anal gland issues and act the same way when the glands need to be expressed.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5718 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 7:38 am to
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Bruh. I'd be concerned too if I was you bringing a newborn home.


Well as I said, he has never snapped at myself or my wife. The wife has given him the ole snout popping a couple times before, but I never felt the need. I just look at him and give him a stern "Git!" and he listens right away.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 7:48 am to
Verbal commands and tone of voice work far better than physical corrections for the most part in my opinion. How are you trying to get him off the furniture / to move in the first place? If it is by physical action and not verbal direction, you have already created some sort of contest which isnt good.

Also, start simply by walking the dog correctly every day. Don't give him any lead, dog has to walk with his head at / behind your hip. You decide when he stops and sniffs, etc., and you dont just stop whenever he tries to pause.

You need to show yourself as the leader in basic situations like that, and then the change in behavior will permeate to other areas with consistency.

Also, be sure that other members of the household do the same thing.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10578 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 7:52 am to
I am bringing him to the vet this morning to get his bloodwork done and have him checked out. The last thing I want to do is be correcting a sick dog. But if he comes back healthy and pulls this crap again, it will be on worse than Donkey Kong. He seemed normal and submitting this morning so it could have been a one off.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:00 am to
Yes, the vet idea is good - but if it isnt some injury you dont want to show aggression and escalate the confrontation. You need to find ways to correct the behavior that dont have you aggressively confronting the dog as your primary response.

Calm but assertive corrections show you / other family members as the dominant leaders better. That is why I always would suggest the walking thing I mentioned above. The dog will usually be calm in the above scenario and all family members can do it and it allows an extended hour or more daily where the dog is forced to accept someone else as the leader in order for the walk to continue.

There are certainly other ways, and in certain situations it is necessary to pop thim, but when the typical answer is you aggressively showing dominance, I think you run the risk of the dog still be aggressively dominant towards pretty much all other people and he may end up snapping at a houseguest, etc.

Good luck, and there are a lot of good books that can help if you have trouble. The Monks of New Skete have some really good guides about dog behavior.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9197 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:14 am to
First thing comes to mind is possible injury or sickness. Bring to vet.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10578 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:38 am to
I brought him to the vet. They are running a blood panel on him. He also showed sensitivity in his back when checked. He is going in for an X-ray. This would explain why he didn’t want to get up, if so.

We have pet insurance so it’s not an issue if it needs to be addressed but it would explain this abnormal behavior
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:53 am to
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The dog is challenging you as the Alpha. Bigger dogs always go through that phase

Yep, next time it happens, pop it in the nose firmly. If it happens again after that, knock the ever living crap out of the dog. Guaranteed it won't happen again unless you are hurting the dog somehow. My GSP has displasia and will sometime growl a bit when you move her but she is 10 now and she can do what she pleases at this point.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:12 am to
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I grabbed this 70lb dog by the back of the neck and threw it outside. Basically just told the MFer to get the hell out, like it could understand English.



Nothing wrong with this at all, just don't punish out of anger next time. Punish just to correct the behavior. The Monks of New Skete books talk about picking dogs up with two-hands behind their jaw line by grabbing loose skin on each side of the neck, and then lifting them off the front feet while making a calm but stern behavior correction (edit: this puts the dog in a vulnerable, beta position). I've done this with pups and adult dogs, labs, chesapeakes, german shepherds, and a staffordshire terrier. One of my shepherds and one of my chesapeakes had this behavior and I had to correct it a handful of times at most.

If interested:

New Skete Monks - I have all three books
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 10:17 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90707 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:00 am to
Would you like it if someone picked you up out of bed and moved you while you were resting?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14547 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:03 am to
I think this is one of those counter intuitive scenarios. Bring a treat with you when you want the dog to get up and move, once he moves reward him with the treat. Rinse and repeat.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51690 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:08 am to
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And you don’t want to confront with your eyes. It’s a sign of aggression with dogs.



I agreed with everything up to this point. When it's your dog and they are staring holes in you, it's part of the challenge to your authority. Looking away or not meeting their stare in this sort of scenario indicates weakeness to them. In other words, allowing them to stare you down in this situation just feeds their sense of dominance.

Stare them down. Don't look away, don't speak, try not to even blink. The goal is for them to look away first, it's a definitive step in re-establishing that you are the pack leader, not the dog.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:23 am to
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Tonight I needed him to get up to change his bed cover. He started growling at me. Then started baring his teeth. All Cujo like.


First, prayers to you and your wife. I once adopted a dog that was too aggressive to stay in our family.
Second, that is not the same as your situation (though it is scary). Your dog is being territorial over his bed and possibly is giving a preemptive aggressive reaction to ward off your own aggression. You really need to immediately stop any dick-waving contests with the dog.
I think you and the dog need a reset. Start exercising the dog like crazy. Try to figure out if the dog is actually fearful. If so, greeting aggression with calm and reassurance will go a long way toward correcting the problem. Also, get the dog a physical. First, observe very closely which movements upset the dog. This way, your vet can evaluate if pain is actually an issue. Read up on dog behavior. It’s likely your dog is also doing things to exhibit possessiveness toward your wife. Make sure you two are united, so the dog doesn’t see you as an aggressor. Lastly, know this, a lot of good dogs get startled when they wake up. Don’t look at it as aggression. It’s an evolutionary self-protective behavior. If none of this works, fine an experienced dog owner who can handle the aggression you describe to them. Then hand the dog over free of charge for the good of the dog and your family.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Kreweofwayne
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
132 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:39 am to
You may also want to read on the Rage Syndrome in dogs. I had one dog that had this and it was triggered when he was startled while sleeping. Some breeds are predisposed to having the Rage Syndrome but it can be found in any breed. I sincerely hope this is not what is happening with your dog but it is something to consider.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:42 am to
My lab does this in the evening when she is tired and doesn’t want to get up off the couch to go outside to pee before we go to bed. She did it to me last night. I stand over her and pin her down and she stops. I’m not scared of her, she would never hurt a fly. She’s just tired and cranky in that moment. Once I let her know I’m in charge she backs down and goes out to pee.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45294 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:43 am to
2 year old 70 lb goldendoodle.

He’s fat.
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