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re: Does the Garden of Eden Still Exist?

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Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:11 pm to
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Your wrong


So are you
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:12 pm to
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Guardian of the Threshold


I googled... I found this to mean something that can be overcome through one's own effort.

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Kabbalistic interpretation.


I googled this too and was put off by the occult association.

I don't think either of those resources rely on Biblical interpretation...?
Posted by Snoop Dawg
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:17 pm to
It’s in Canada, on Vancouver Island, just north of Victoria. It has been rebranded as “Butchart Gardens.” You can see billboards for it on I-5 as far south as California.
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Posted by Swamp Angel
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:22 pm to
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these are things I wonder about and figured at least some of y'all did too.


It's interesting that this thread has gone this far with no one taking a moment to consider that there was a sightly catastrophic global flood that wiped out all of mankind (with the exception of eight individuals) and that this flood would have undeniably have eradicated pretty much all of the landscape of the time. Consider that it wasn't simply forty days and forty nights of rain, but "the fountains of the deep" were broken up and water spewed forth from fissures in the earth itself.

Figure that had to include a lot of seismic activity, to say the least.

With all that occurring, I would hazard to say that the garden of Eden was probably among the casualties of that deluge and thus no longer exists.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:24 pm to
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Are you familiar with the Gospel of Truth which was found last century as part of the Nag Hammadi library? It's worth a read.


I bought a NH on amazon... got sidetracked and didn't go through it much.

I'll google it as I don't know where my book is.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:27 pm to
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With all that occurring, I would hazard to say that the garden of Eden was probably among the casualties of that deluge and thus no longer exists.


That seems to be the prevailing theory from what I've looked up.

I'm not sold though... I'd imagine the cherubim and flaming swords could fend that off, too.



Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:29 pm to
Saddam Hussein built an Applebees where tree of life once was. That rascal had a sense of humor.
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:31 pm to
Well, almost every ME country has a Tree of Life. Bahrain:
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:35 pm to
Many scholars put Genesis’ non symbolic Garden of Eden in southern Iraq
Posted by Swamp Angel
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:35 pm to
It's a fun mental exercise to imagine it survived the flood, but I would imagine the cherubim with the flaming swords were recalled to let the earth suffer its fate at the time.

Interesting side note - Cherubim are NOT the cute little fat-baby angels that we so often see depicted. They are the warriors among the angels and are pretty much terrifying in appearance. Seraphim would have an equally fearful appearance were we to see them with our own eyes as they are described to appear. Their duty, as far as I've been able to determine, is solely to worship God continually.

You selected a good topic for an OP tonight, Sal'.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:38 pm to
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Does the Garden of Eden Still Exist?


Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:39 pm to
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It's a fun mental exercise to imagine it survived the flood, but I would imagine the cherubim with the flaming swords were recalled to let the earth suffer its fate at the time.


I didn't consider that... that would make sense.

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Interesting side note - Cherubim are NOT the cute little fat-baby angels that we so often see depicted. They are the warriors among the angels and are pretty much terrifying in appearance.


I love reading about their appearance in contrast to the cartoon/hallmark depictions. That'd be an interesting thing to learn about, how Angels got a makeover.
Posted by midwestTiger20
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:40 pm to
Yes.

It is in Lucas,Kansas
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:41 pm to
Well, according to most of my family, it does, and it's in Jackson County, Missouri, just outside of Independence.
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:30 am to
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With all that occurring, I would hazard to say that the garden of Eden was probably among the casualties of that deluge and thus no longer exists.

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That seems to be the prevailing theory from what I've looked up.

There are countless delicate geological formations that have been around longer than the Flood supposedly occurred.

It blows my mind that educated adults living in 2026 actually believe a man centuries old built a giant wooden ship with his family and summoned a pair of all the species of the world to the Middle East so they could survive the wrath of an angry deity.

Culture and the fear of death are powerful things. I’m glad they don’t shackle my mind, though.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:39 am to
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It blows my mind that educated adults living in 2026 actually believe a man centuries old built a giant wooden ship with his family and summoned a pair of all the species of the world to the Middle East so they could survive the wrath of an angry deity.


A pair of unclean... seven by seven of clean animals.

Noah did not summon the animals, they came to the ark.

Were our wrathful deity angry, He would have simply been done with the lot of us. That he prepared Noah, his wife, his sons, their wives and the various animals emphatically proves Our Lord is not some angry tyrant.

Anywho- this thread was more directed at Bible believing Christians... for those who are not "shackled" but who are free.

It's always amusing to see such enlightened people have no clue as to what the book they bash ACTUALLY says.

Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 2:56 am to
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It's always amusing to see such enlightened people have no clue as to what the book they bash ACTUALLY says.

Sure.

You’re saying this to a person who has been to the Ark Encounter, seen where Jesus was supposedly born, baptized. ate the Last Supper (although the building didn’t exist at the time), was arrested, walked to his execution, was crucified, entombed, and ascended. I have also seen where John the Baptist was executed and where God supposedly showed Moses the Promised Land on Mt. Nebo.

I have seen many of the great geological formations of the world (I am walking distance from Victoria Falls in Zimbabwe as I type this) and know that the world we see didn’t endure a global flood a few millennia ago. That’s ignorant and contradicts mountains of evidence across multiple scientific disciplines.

Maybe you should do more than read religious texts given to you by your culture.
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