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re: Does insurance violate the basic laws of economics?

Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:42 am to
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:42 am to
No, “owning” things people can’t afford is what creates the need for insurance.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57296 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:44 am to
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The reduction of financial risk has no value when there is no actual loss.The reduction of financial risk has no value when there is no actual loss. At least not to the purchaser, and at least not in any quantifiable way.
Absolutely untrue. Assets with zero risk are more valuable than assets at risk. This is very simple.

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Completely correct. And I think the biggest problem with the Louisiana insurance market, especially relative to home insurance, is that everyone is having difficulty figuring out where the "x" lies between 0 and 100.
The risk is quantifiable. But, the politicians and customers don't like the result.

A market exists when the seller and buyer disagree on value, but agree on a price. Unfortunately, setting the price in LA has all sorts of interventions that are outside of the buyer and purchaser's control.

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Now you are getting into acutarial science as well as the unpredictable forces of nature, none of which are economic issues.
Huh? Assessing risk always an economic calculation. And it's not based on a guess.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:47 am to
I can assure you that I know more about the industry and telematics. I can also assure with 100% confidence your data isn’t being sold.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5918 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:47 am to
Property insurance mandated by mortgages and car liability insurance operate just like taxes.
Posted by Terbulance69
Member since Oct 2021
63 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:47 am to
Insurance is essentially a legalized Ponzi Scheme when you think about it.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8780 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 10:53 am to
Except it isn’t at all, because the carriers have to have reserves that are constantly monitored, the government has guarantee programs if insolvency occurs, and they must buy reinsurance as well.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1662 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:01 am to
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Maybe read your fine print of insurance policies before you assume insurance policies are going to pay out for any and every.


You're an idiot. The fine print does not dictate to what extent the Ins company will go to dispute if any damage is a result of the insured incident and then if they do determine its covered they will then try to tell you it only costs 10% of the actual going rate to fix it. GFYS
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
5381 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:10 am to
Nope. As another poster pointed out, the value that you are buying with insurance is the transfer of great risk to another entity for a small fee. It makes much more productivity possible in our economy as individuals and companies can participate in activities that they otherwise could not participate in.
This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 11:11 am
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8611 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:13 am to
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but the company does everything in their power to avoid having to actually provide the good or service


Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:14 am to
Here we go again lol
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7543 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:16 am to
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No, “owning” things people can’t afford is what creates the need for insurance.


that's overly simplistic and not necessarily a blanket truth.

I own my house (or will own it outright in a little over a year from now).
my house took significant damage from Hurricane Ida.

If I pay for all of those damages out of pocket (which I ended up doing thanks to my homeowner's insurance company filing bankruptcy in Ida's wake), then you have to tack that $70k on to what I paid for the house.

but the value of my house doesn't increase by $70k despite me spending that on it.

meaning I just added $70k to the cost of my house while the value remained stagnant.

So if I sell it, I take a $70k hit (with some movement due to market at time of sale obviously).

Had I sold it "as is" prior to repairs, then the value is nowhere near what I paid for it and I lose big there.

I can afford the house.
I paid to fix it.

throwing away $70,000 isn't a very wise financial decision whether you can afford it or not.












Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8780 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:26 am to
The Brain trust of the OT never fails
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41634 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:27 am to
Insurance basics will always perplex the OT. This place is full of idiots who think they know everything.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8780 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:37 am to
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Insurance basics will always perplex the OT. This place is full of idiots who think they know everything.


While also complaining about rates, but wanting Gordon to buy their favorite recruit via NIL
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
3755 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:39 am to
It is gambling when you boil it down. I know a lot of insurance agents and all of them are doing quite well selling a reoccurring yearly product.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41634 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:45 am to
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I know a lot of insurance agents and all of them are doing quite well selling a reoccurring yearly product.

Then why don’t you jump on board? It is a great business to be in and the water’s fine! I’m currently sitting back in my home office, in socks, with my feet up on my desk taking calls and selling coverage. When I have to poop, nobody else’s funk is on the toilet seat and my biggest obstacle during my commute is my dog.

This post was edited on 3/1/24 at 11:48 am
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8780 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:47 am to
Yes we are doing quite well, thank you. Not sure what your point is though.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8780 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:48 am to
That sounds fun, I’m working from the Mercedes dealership
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
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41634 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:50 am to


Not as fun as reading through insurance threads on the OT where everyone is an expert
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8780 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:53 am to
If you’re going to be the scum of the OT, you might as well make bank doing it.
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