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re: Does anyone see light at the end of the tunnel?

Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:57 pm to
Just heard a guy on the news say the restaurant industry is expected to take a 250 billion dollar hit and lose 5-7 million jobs. So there's that.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78699 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:59 pm to
Even with most of them still being open and doing drive thru and takeout?
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:00 pm to
I am hopeful that more of peoples outdoor activities will resume after the rainy weather. Should be cheerful.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:01 pm to
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Even with most of them still being open and doing drive thru and takeout?



It's like a fraction of their normal business and I'm sure they're getting absolutely smoked on alcohol sales drops

Now the reality is that it's an industry that can likely be propped up so that those job losses are not permanent. I expect the question is how long we can prop it up before the trickle down impacts really and truly frick the economy as a whole for a longer period.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78699 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:05 pm to
Going back to the year 2000. After how many economic downturns we’ve had which industries were the most impacted and how did they recover? Many economists have said they believe this impending recession and downturn will be worse than 2001 post 9/11 but not as bad as 2008 Great Recession
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16221 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:05 pm to
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Between now and then these pain in the arse measures will be effective and save lives.


For some these measures are just a pain in the arse for others they are much more life altering. Missing pay checks or getting laid off is not a pain in the arse restriction.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:06 pm to
Not yet.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53838 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:07 pm to
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Even with most of them still being open and doing drive thru and takeout?

I'm guessing most of their business has still significantly declined. Particularly those that make a lot of money on alcohol. It sucks.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8349 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7957 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:09 pm to
Believe me I know firsthand. These measures can’t last here in my locale without the serious cases and hospital volume to justify them. People gotta feed their families. I’d be surprised if things were still crazy where I live at this time next month.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78699 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:10 pm to
I get the alcohol part. But you would think that the place you like to frequent for food is still open and serving their menu via takeout that maybe not business as usual but at least staying busy with takeout orders. Are people not wanting to leave the house and pick the food up? Make me wonder if Uber Eats and Grubhub are even busy?
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4051 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:11 pm to
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I'm guessing most of their business has still significantly declined. Particularly those that make a lot of money on alcohol. It sucks.


Downtown the past few nights has looked like a ghost town. My usual 40 minute work commute has been about 20 minutes
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53838 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:14 pm to
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Are people not wanting to leave the house and pick the food up?

I think a lot of people are hunkered down and not getting out as much. I'm guessing that some people might have an issue eating food that they didn't prepare as well.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7087 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:15 pm to
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Whether a few weeks or a few months, it’s only temporary.


If it’s a few months, the lasting consequences will be nothing even close to temporary.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:15 pm to
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brings me down


your real name Bruce by any chance?

always thought I misunderstood that lyric, turns out it's correct
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53610 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:16 pm to
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If the hospitals in your area aren't completely overwhelmed by then, you may be hitting the plateau. Of the people who are requiring hospital care, it occurs an average of 21-23 days after contracting the virus. The severe social distancing didn't really start in most areas until March 14-15. So the weekend of April 4th may be when we know if we are going more like South Korea or more like Italy/China.


Where are you pulling this data from?

Numbers I saw for the peak expected infection rate in DFW was first week of May
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17921 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:18 pm to
Plenty more dark before we see the light
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
13489 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:19 pm to
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Plenty more dark before we see the light


In your opinion
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17921 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:21 pm to
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In your opinion


As opposed to what, everything about the future is opinion
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16103 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 5:18 pm to
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Plenty more dark before we see the light


Well kinda different opinion here. Hcq is in my opinion going to be a game changer.

This is going to work as prophylaxis I think as well. The question is will it prevent people from even getting the virus or will they get it, have no symptoms and be immune to it making vaccination unnecessary.

We are going to massively ramp up production of this drug. Many American hospitals are now using it on the sickest. We will start to see it rolled out to anyone infected.

Honestly this next week is going to be interesting. The massive amount of research into this thing has been amazing. I suspect we are going to start hearing a massive decline in mortality even among the old.

And it's been two weeks we have been in lockdown. I suspect things will start to loosen up in a week or two.

A vaccine will be out in four months.

We honestly are just at about the worst this is going to be here is the United States. Perhaps this week will be the worst with a gradual improvement.

Trump calling for the racist travel ban on China is what allowed us the time to get things rolling.

We live in amazing times that a world wide pandemic can be taken care of inside a month.

I said last week that the United States was going to say to China hold my beer while we handle this. I feel that way even more now.

So yes there is light at the end of the tunnel.
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