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re: Do you work in I.T.? If yes, what capacity?

Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44048 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:09 pm to
Started out satellite communications in the Army. Ended up in cybersecurity. On the civilian side, been mostly a blue teamer, but I do have a couple Army red team classes/certs under my belt. Along with the usual CISSP and gaggle of GIAC certs.

I'd say where I work now, but most of you that have been in the cybersecurity field for even a few years could probably find me pretty damn quick if I did based on who I work for.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70400 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:11 pm to
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You don't want to spend all day doing HR quarterly reviews on all 96 of your direct reports
I assume you’re being facetious here.

5-7 Direct reports is my sweet spot, 10 is too many.

Obviously it can be different with scale and diversity of the enterprise but there is a finite number that a CEO can effectively interact with.

Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18521 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:13 pm to
I've been kind of a jack of all trades IT guy. Kind of an I.T. generalist.

Did help desk and desktop support my whole career. More and more has just been added on.

I have dealt with PC hardware and multitudes of software installation/troubleshooting/maintenance. Install/troubleshoot/maintain mainly windows OS'. I have installed/troubleshoot/repaired laser jet printers.

I've created and set up back ups and schedules on-site/off-site/cloud based.

I have done all the cable pulling/terminating in several new constructions and remodels of car dealerships. That includes low voltage/data/audio. I've drilled in concrete and installed racks, put in and terminated the wiring in the patch panels. I also installed motion detectors, maglocks, alarm sensors, card/fob readers, and push to exit buttons.

I have had to troubleshoot network issues. Set up access points. Maintained a firewall and web filter.

I've maintained active directory users/groups and file permissions.

I have created images and handled imaging.

I have managed anti-virus servers.

I have set up and supported cell phones/tablets of all kinds of flavors.

I've helped set up phone servers. Maintained several different flavors of phones servers and cloud based systems. I've set up users, phones, in bound routing tables, call groups. Both on VOIP and analog systems.

I've taken apart key inventory machines and repaired them. Both the PC (head unit) and the drawers, boards, rails, power supplies.

I have managed users and permissions on all kinds of websites and enterprise software.

I have even had to troubleshoot a network issue with fords diagnostic software not programming a car. Wound up being a bad ECM in the car. I told the mechanic he owed me his time on that one.

Basically if it had electricity to it or ran on a PC I had to take care of it.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10340 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:14 pm to
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Curious though, why do you say that?


Because TCS charges $30 an hour for India resources that are "SAP Experts." Big 4 is a bit of a different bag, but places like Accenture (and I'm assuming KPMG, based on him including it in the same breath as TCS) are body shops. I presume Wipro is the same (also an Indian owned "consultancy.")

I told a team that was proposing to move SAP to AWS for a client needed to make sure they mentioned the AWS Well Architected Framework in the proposal, and the response was, "We're not being paid to implement frameworks."

This was on a multi-million dollar engagement. Companies like this will win engagements based on price, and when the breach happens, they will have already cashed the checks. How many breaches has T-Mobile has this calendar year? In the last 12 months? Why? Who is their primary IT provider? I'll show you my shocked face.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14570 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:15 pm to
Train end users.
Create and destroy accounts
Evaluate people’s stupidity. People love open unknown emails.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44048 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Because TCS charges $30 an hour for India resources that are "SAP Experts." Big 4 is a bit of a different bag, but places like Accenture (and I'm assuming KPMG, based on him including it in the same breath as TCS) are body shops. I presume Wipro is the same (also an Indian owned "consultancy.")

I told a team that was proposing to move SAP to AWS for a client needed to make sure they mentioned the AWS Well Architected Framework in the proposal, and the response was, "We're not being paid to implement frameworks."

This was on a multi-million dollar engagement. Companies like this will win engagements based on price, and when the breach happens, they will have already cashed the checks. How many breaches has T-Mobile has this calendar year? In the last 12 months? Why? Who is their primary IT provider? I'll show you my shocked face.


You need to stop talking son. Indian "consulting" companies fricking up our client's infrastructure daily...and I'm not kidding...it really is daily...is part of my job security.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22869 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:17 pm to
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You need to stop talking son. Indian "consulting" companies fricking up our client's infrastructure daily...and I'm not kidding...it really is daily...is part of my job security.


They have been literally for decades, and some American companies still have not learned their lesson.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44048 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:18 pm to
I was on a call the other day, and the entire Indian "IT Expert" team had no clue what "sudo" was...

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32856 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:24 pm to
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KPMG and TCS are well known SAP/Ariba headhunters. They go from corporation to corporation to absorb their SAP operations, successfully. They'll initially be called in for a SOX audit, or some other formal routine audit, and one of the audit findings is "we noticed you are spending X million a year in your SAP operations, we can take that over for half the price, and improve your systems, and remove your audit liability for all of these operations" and next thing you know.... all your SAP people are looking up COBRA benefits.


You aren't wrong. We rely heavily on outside consultants to do the grunt work in SAP on projects. Usually Contax, Cybertech, or Accenture. One of my roles is overseeing them on projects. We've gotten burned hard by some of the cheaper firms we've worked with in the past.

We're currently laying the groundwork for migrating from ECC6 to S/4 HANA in 2024. I can't see myself being let go before that completes and stabilizes just because of my knowledge of our operations and structure. We'll see after that, but I feel pretty heavily relied upon for business knowledge more more than just IMG work.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:26 pm to
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I was on a call the other day, and the entire Indian "IT Expert" team had no clue what "sudo" was...

Tha frick? Seriously?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44048 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:27 pm to
Dead serious. Our slack channel was straight up hilarious for the next 20 minutes. My god...the memes....
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
1813 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:31 pm to
Work in IT for the state. It’s ok, I don’t really do anything exciting. Sometimes I think I’d like to jump to something more exciting.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2527 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:31 pm to
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I’m a .NET C#\mvc\sql developer. My problem is I’m a jack of all trades and a master of bone. Makes job searching less than fun. Been on the lookout for the right gif to jump ship to but haven’t found the right offer yet. Been with the company for 17 years and got my degree about 12 years in and got into IT a year after that. The suckiest part about IT is it’s really difficult to get an opportunity without experience.

.

I did that .NET crap for most of 15 years, constantly looking for the opportunity to do something cooler. I had limited success; I'd find a job in mobile development, or embedded development, but whenever it came time to drum up some cash it was back to disgusting old C#.

Finally I decided to go into management and I don't regret it. Once you're a "manager," you're no longer stuck in any particular technology.

I've gotten to manage groups doing things far cooler than .NET, and it wasn't like I just sat around doing performance reviews all day. I've written plenty of code as a manager, but it's on my terms.

"Oh, look, I figured out this snippet of Objective C. Now you can take it and put it in a pull request, suffer code review, etc., Mr. Junior Developer."
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
2084 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:33 pm to
Just retired as an IT Manager for a P/L company.

Really loved working with customers and leading teams to implement their requirements.
Posted by FriscoTiger
Frisco, TX
Member since Aug 2005
4093 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:40 pm to
I have been working on the network side of IT for almost 30 years. Started in netops with a mid sized company, then engineering and architecture. Left to go be a sales engineer at Cisco 6 years ago and while I miss some of the engineering stuff the compensation plan in sales is incredible. Wish I would have made the move 15 years ago.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70596 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

I assume you’re being facetious here.

5-7 Direct reports is my sweet spot, 10 is too many.

Obviously it can be different with scale and diversity of the enterprise but there is a finite number that a CEO can effectively interact with.


Only partially facetious. I know a guy in my company, after a re-org, he (network director) literally had over 100 direct reports. It took months to get them reassigned and re-delegated through the HR "processes". In the meantime, he was having to personally handle all their HR shite. This was less than 5 years ago.

So to answer your question, is 96 typical? No. Does it happen? Yes.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70596 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:44 pm to
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Left to go be a sales engineer at Cisco 6 years ago


What's your excuse for last week's SDWAN fiasco?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48659 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:48 pm to
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It’s not for everyone, I have techs and code monkeys who would rather stay in their comfortable positions vs taking on the role/responsibility of dealing with the rest of the executives, departments, and employees.



I'm a gen x slacker. Got 23 years in Manufacturing IT as an analyst/DBA. In the last 7 years I've noticed my bosses are now younger than me. I don't mind at all. I'm not ambitious. I do my job well enough and avoid taking any initiative or new projects.

I do about 6-8 hours of real work every week for a six figure salary. No reason to rock the boat.


This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 7:49 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51784 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:49 pm to
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Left to go be a sales engineer at Cisco 6 years ago

Do you cover just TX? I know most of you Cisco folks in this area of the country, including TX
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10340 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:50 pm to
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You need to stop talking son. Indian "consulting" companies fricking up our client's infrastructure daily...and I'm not kidding...it really is daily...is part of my job security.


You should have seen the email I sent last night about using our internal systems to enter my time... For a technical example of ineptitude, the company portal cannot be accessed unless you explicitly specify HTTPS Colon FarkedcompanyPortal Dot com. How to force connections to default to HTTPS was something I learned more than 20 years ago (it was a single line in an IOS config). But our infrastructure team can't manage to figure it out, and they also don't think it's a usability problem for hundreds of thousands of employees.

I sat in a prep meeting for orals at a potential client, and pointed out that the team had a list on a slide that switched between numbers and bullets *in the same list* and that they needed to change it before we showed it to the client (energy sector, heavily regulated.) They ignored me. We won the bid anyway.
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