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re: Do you think Louisiana focuses too much on college graduate employees

Posted on 2/24/18 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 2:31 pm to
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I'm definitely a little bit trashy too


Everyone is. Some just hide it more than others.

Criticizing others lifestyle is for school kids and puritans. I'll never hold a hard days work against anyone. I'm not cut out for it.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 2:52 pm to
When I graduated HS in 1997, if you wanted to have a career, you pretty much had to go to college. There were many jobs in which one of the requirements was.. "bachelor's degree". It didn't matter if it was general studies or kinesiology, it didn't have to do with anything related to the job. Simply having a college degree gave you a lot more opportunity than not having one..

Today, it's pretty much a waste of money to go to college to get a general studies degree. In fact, if you are not going to college for something specific (lawyer, doctor, teacher, engineer, specific jobs in media, etc), the only reason to go to college is for "the experience".

Today, you need a trade. If one person goes to college just to get a degree (as in, they are not interested in being something specific.. They have a history degree or some shite), they are a lot less valuable than someone who went get a trade.. to become a plumber, electrician, pipe designer, computer programing, etc.

When people come out of HS, I think there are a few subjects they need to take that will help them adjust to "the real world". It's a good idea to have them go over things just to make sure they don't make themselves look like a dumbass. Maybe an English class to make sure they know the difference between"to", "too" and "two", there and their.. That the person who is head of a grade school is a principal and not principle.

At least cover the basics in algebra, geometry, trigonometry, and calculus (each one they spend one month covering). Have a "life management" class that covers personal finance management and just general things that people should know to better communicate, etc. Then everything else is related to the trade they are going in..

I don't know if that is what trade schools do or how it all works, but people should be able to get some life skills knowledge and learn their trade at a price that they will not have to spend the next 20 years paying off.

With all that said, I think the problem does start in HS. Or at least from what I can see. High schools focus more on preparing kids for college and don't really promote alternatives.

In 20-30 years, I think we will see the more traditional way of teaching fizzle out.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 3:55 pm to
There’s obviously a lot of value in certain degrees,depending on the career.A few years back my employer required a tech degree for anyone applying for positions.The individuals that were hired during this period did not meet expectations,most aren’t even employed there anymore.Point is,not everyone nor every career benefits from a degree.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42614 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:02 pm to
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When I graduated HS in 1997, if you wanted to have a career, you pretty much had to go to college. There were many jobs in which one of the requirements was.. "bachelor's degree". It didn't matter if it was general studies or kinesiology, it didn't have to do with anything related to the job. Simply having a college degree gave you a lot more opportunity than not having one..

This is exactly what everyone told me when I graduated high school. It was terrible advice back then just as it is now.
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:25 pm to


Did an operator bang your wife to make you that bitter?
Posted by Mr Meeseeks
In the Meeseek's box
Member since Sep 2017
199 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:36 pm to
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Today, you need a trade. If one person goes to college just to get a degree (as in, they are not interested in being something specific.. They have a history degree or some shite), they are a lot less valuable than someone who went get a trade.. to become a plumber, electrician, pipe designer, computer programing, etc. 


This is the best statement thus far.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:15 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 5:34 pm
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:18 pm to
The worst operators I’ve encountered hold a PTech degree
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:20 pm to
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I’ve simply watched people in my area and in my family have your type of “gud-nuff” mentality and live an unfulfilling life. It’s so weak and insecure to not think more highly of yourself than that and I despise it. It’s pathetic.


Jesus Christ...
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:24 pm to
That’s one helluva horse he’s riding
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:25 pm to
No shite. I'm guessing he's a student, and hasn't gotten into the real world quite yet.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:32 pm to
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Today, it's pretty much a waste of money to go to college to get a general studies degree. In fact, if you are not going to college for something specific (lawyer, doctor, teacher, engineer, specific jobs in media, etc), the only reason to go to college is for "the experience".

Today, you need a trade. If one person goes to college just to get a degree (as in, they are not interested in being something specific.. They have a history degree or some shite), they are a lot less valuable than someone who went get a trade.. to become a plumber, electrician, pipe designer, computer programing, etc.


That's not entirely accurate. A liberal arts degree represents the ability to learn a diverse set of subjects. A company with fewer than 500 employees is going to find that attractive. It means they have multiple options for placing the candidate, and if the need arises to move an employee to a new position, the employee will be able to handle the change.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:37 pm to
Pardon my bluntness but someone with a liberal arts degree can’t do what an Engineer / Doctor / Stem can!
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9504 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:38 pm to
Actually that last post was a bit dickish so I took it down. But I’m a prior-deployed military who got out and got his degree, worked in sales and managed an office of 30+ before 30.

I was a plant baw for 6 months prior to joining the military and couldn’t imagine doing that for the rest of my life.
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 5:39 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:39 pm to
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Pardon my bluntness but someone with a liberal arts degree can’t do what an Engineer / Doctor / Stem can!


They can do things you cant.

In business it goes through cycles but liberal arts degrees can open doors.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53837 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:40 pm to
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I’ve simply watched people in my area and in my family have your type of “gud-nuff” mentality and live an unfulfilling life. It’s so weak and insecure to not think more highly of yourself than that and I despise it. It’s pathetic. Then, when someone comes along and tells them it doesn’t have to be this way, they get offended out of insecurity and say “yur lookin down on me, I’m mad” 

If you are miserable leave. I mean people make less money in Picayune, MS vs Boston, MA. I don't think that means that they are less happy in life.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53837 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:42 pm to
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Pardon my bluntness but someone with a liberal arts degree can’t do what an Engineer / Doctor / Stem can!

I'm a lower level IT manager that still does some hands on work. The best developer that I've ever worked with didn't have a degree and the best systems guy on my team has an English degree from Davidson.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99043 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:42 pm to
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Actually that last post was a bit dickish so I took it down. But I’m a prior-deployed military who got out and got his degree, worked in sales and managed an office of 30+ before 30.


Aren't you in school to be a murse?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 5:44 pm to
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Actually that last post was a bit dickish so I took it down. But I’m a prior-deployed military who got out and got his degree, worked in sales and managed an office of 30+ before 30. 

I was a plant baw for 6 months prior to joining the military and couldn’t imagine doing that for the rest of my life. 


What do you do now?
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9504 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:15 pm to
Home-based CAD design/ Proposal generator for a company based out of the Tampa area. And I am back in school at the moment.
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