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re: Do You Know Anyone Who Got A Job By Over-Exaggerating Their Resume?

Posted on 12/3/18 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36742 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 7:42 pm to
How widespread of an issue is this within the world of IT?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 7:52 pm to
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Your company doesnt verify education during background checks?



I have no idea. I would think so, but I think there are times when they need to fill jobs pretty quick and I could see them possibly not checking every time.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:08 pm to
I know someone who didn't get a job by exaggerating on his resume. I interviewed someone out of college this past spring who claimed he was a "network engineer" for his college library. It became obvious he had no in-depth network expertise and basically just refilled the paper cartridges on the printers.

At my company each candidate gets three interviewers and the other two saw through it as well, he did not get an offer.

You can fool HR to get an interview. An interviewer doesn't expect you to be an expert right off the bat out of college, but we do expect you to not blatantly lie. For college hires we're mostly just looking for curiosity and an analytical mind. If you claim real experience we'll expect you to demonstrate it.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:08 pm to
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Long story short.


You lie.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:16 pm to
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Everyone has some shite like that on their resume.


I actually don't. When I say involved in the community, it's actually because I spent a couple of hours a week doing volunteer work. It's probably somewhat to my detriment, but I feel very uncomfortable with anything that can be construed as dishonest.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:20 pm to
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There are lazy HR people in this world.




These are jobs that are temporary. I think many of the jobs they fill are jobs for turnarounds.. A contractor suddenly needs x amount of people, I don't think they have to fill many engineering jobs, but when they do, it's not that easy to find experienced engineers who are looking for temporary jobs and since the recruiter gets commission, I could see how certain things fall through the cracks (I would think HR is responsible for confirming these things and recruiting and HR are two different departments). Then there is his job experience. Either way, he either conned his way into several jobs are it was just a sloppy hire.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:21 pm to
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Haven’t posted here enough to have street cred but you’re describing someone I worked with to a tee until he was found out and fired. He got on with another plant I used to work at and someone passed the word to them over there that he was a fraud and he got canned again. He tried to come back on-site as a pipe fitter contractor but as soon as he was recognized they kicked him out.




Did his first name start with a W by any chance?
Posted by geauxtigers6492
Admin in Waiting
Member since Jun 2008
3981 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:26 pm to
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Do You Know Anyone Who Got A Job By Over-Exaggerating Their Resume


The current football coach at LSU?
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4832 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:32 pm to
Exaggerating is OK

over-exaggerating is not.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135363 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:36 pm to
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By Over-Exaggerating
What’s the difference between “exaggerating” and “over exaggerating”??
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:43 pm to
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What’s the difference between “exaggerating” and “over exaggerating”??


I guess exaggerating is exaggerating, but what I mean is.. Wording responsibilities you had on a job, in away that makes them seem more important than they really were, would be exaggerating.

Adding an education that doesn't really exist would be over-exaggerating, but I guess that is just down right lying.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21517 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:48 pm to
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What’s the difference between “exaggerating” and “over exaggerating”??


It’s like being just a little pregnant versus really fricking pregnant.
Posted by BrohanDavey
The Land Down Under
Member since Oct 2018
790 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 2:40 am to
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You can fool HR to get an interview. An interviewer doesn't expect you to be an expert right off the bat out of college, but we do expect you to not blatantly lie. For college hires we're mostly just looking for curiosity and an analytical mind. If you claim real experience we'll expect you to demonstrate it.


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I could see how certain things fall through the cracks (I would think HR is responsible for confirming these things and recruiting and HR are two different departments). Then there is his job experience.


Ever heard of "banding?" It's where a hiring manager will group test scores (interview scores) into ranges and treat scores within a particular range as equivalent when making personnel decisions. After an organization collects test scores from candidates who applied for a job, a hiring decision is made using these scores. That's typically how those people slip through the cracks. Additionally, affirmative action does not help this one bit.

I used to work in HR for a Fortune 500 company a couple of years ago before moving into HCA...

A LOT of people pad or fluff up their resume. Yes, anyone can technically fluff or blatantly lie on a resume, but HR personnel are trained to look for it. Too much information that looks too good to be true on it usually signals a few things: 1) this person cannot speak well enough in an interview or otherwise, so they let their resume do all of the talking instead (they usually do not interview well; but that's not to say they won't be good employees); 2) they are full of BS (if they make it past the initial screening, then you can see this clearer during the actual interview stage, specifically by asking them situational/behavioral questions related to their experience...you're looking for inconsistencies in their claimed experience and their answers or by having them solve some sort of case study/problem at the interview); 3) they know what they're talking about and can speak to/demonstrate what they're claiming on their resume (these are likely going to be your highest performing employees one day).

The people who are full of BS or outright liars typically do not last very long provided they've landed the job in the first place, and it is very easy to detect within the first couple of months and even weeks depending on how poor said EE's performance is.

Yes, ultimately, everything employment related from FTEs to contracted labor all flows up to and through HR (typically starting in Recruiting). HR and Recruiting are almost always in the same department, with HR usually being on a dotted line to other departments like Operations Management, Legal, etc. In some bigger companies with naturally bigger budgets, HR as a whole is pretty extensive with their own smaller departments like Recruiting, Compensation & Benefits, Performance Mgmt., etc etc. That said, a lot of companies outsource a lot of HR functionality and those that haven't are moving toward it.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10779 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 3:14 am to
A friend of mine that didn't even finish highschool got a $100k+ a year job as a fiber optic inspector because a guy told him what to put on his resume. I guess he learned the job because he and his did this for many years.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5328 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:44 am to
Yes his name starts with a W.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:55 am to
I know of a dude at Structural Group who never graduated LSU (hell, idk if he even enrolled) who got hired by lying about his education. I think he is still there, not sure though
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:40 am to
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Yes his name starts with a W.



If this is the same person, this would be funny as shite!
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
30008 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:43 am to
A real story by Oweo

It feels weird being the first handicapped guy in history that it's okay to make fun of. Also, I got a flat.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:44 am to
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Also, I got a flat.


I got inserts bitch! I don't get flats.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5328 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 2:50 pm to
Last name starts with a W as well.
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