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re: Do you have an inner dialogue?
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:49 am to stout
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:49 am to stout
This reminds me of the old cartoons that used to depict the angel and devil on a character's shoulders. I was looking for something Looney Toons but found Homer instead...
I have an inner dialogue. And often have another track in my mind playing the earworm of the day... the latest being that Chuck Mangione horn heavy hit from the 70s that people posted here when he passed away last week.
Also, as one of your articles suggests, some people might lean a little more on other imaginative faculties like visualization. Tesla, for instance, was reportedly able to build detailed prototypes of his inventions in his mind before he committed anything to paper... There was a related thread on here a few months ago about how some people can't visualize / form mental pictures (aphantasia).
To some degree, these faculties are trainable. When I was teaching myself to play guitar as an adult, I developed a better ability to create music in my head: taking one song and morphing it into something else, stripping away some instruments and adding others. There are meditation modalities-- I think sometimes called plastic imagination training-- where you might spend some number of minutes working on strengthening visual imagination by holding an image in your mind, then doing the same with sound, then tactile sensations like hot/cold, heavy/light, etc.
And in the same way you can strengthen these faculties, you can lose/degrade them. Excess screen time is supposedly bad for developing visual imagination. It would follow that having or lacking an inner voice might similarly be influenced by how someone lives. If someone has a strong desire-- positive or negative-- it will give shape to an inner voice. I would imagine child prodigies with a strong desire to be something particular (like Prince as a kid wanting to be a musician) will develop a strong internal voice / "I". In contrast, if someone just goes through the motions and doesn't question the people around them (family, co-workers, the news, etc), the need for an inner voice to rise might become stunted.
I have an inner dialogue. And often have another track in my mind playing the earworm of the day... the latest being that Chuck Mangione horn heavy hit from the 70s that people posted here when he passed away last week.
Also, as one of your articles suggests, some people might lean a little more on other imaginative faculties like visualization. Tesla, for instance, was reportedly able to build detailed prototypes of his inventions in his mind before he committed anything to paper... There was a related thread on here a few months ago about how some people can't visualize / form mental pictures (aphantasia).
To some degree, these faculties are trainable. When I was teaching myself to play guitar as an adult, I developed a better ability to create music in my head: taking one song and morphing it into something else, stripping away some instruments and adding others. There are meditation modalities-- I think sometimes called plastic imagination training-- where you might spend some number of minutes working on strengthening visual imagination by holding an image in your mind, then doing the same with sound, then tactile sensations like hot/cold, heavy/light, etc.
And in the same way you can strengthen these faculties, you can lose/degrade them. Excess screen time is supposedly bad for developing visual imagination. It would follow that having or lacking an inner voice might similarly be influenced by how someone lives. If someone has a strong desire-- positive or negative-- it will give shape to an inner voice. I would imagine child prodigies with a strong desire to be something particular (like Prince as a kid wanting to be a musician) will develop a strong internal voice / "I". In contrast, if someone just goes through the motions and doesn't question the people around them (family, co-workers, the news, etc), the need for an inner voice to rise might become stunted.
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:54 am to Steadyhands
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For those that don't, how do they read, or does that not count if it's the only things said? Or does there mind work where it truly just goes from sight to some image or understanding without actually saying the word internally?
Someone reading words in front of them has nothing to do with internal dialogue. They aren't having an internal dialogue they are just reading...
It would be like them reading something and then going on an internal conversation about what they are reading.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 10:55 am
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:59 am to SCLSUMuddogs
This. I had no idea some people couldn't either.
Can't picture things in your head? No inner monologue? Are these people retarded?
Can't picture things in your head? No inner monologue? Are these people retarded?
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 11:02 am
Posted on 8/1/25 at 11:00 am to Dantheman504
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Someone reading words in front of them has nothing to do with internal dialogue. They aren't having an internal dialogue they are just reading...
It would be like them reading something and then going on an internal conversation about what they are reading.
So who is saying the words when reading quietly to yourself? Is that not the same internal voice? Or is that all these people do when they read? what about writing like right now, do they not think about and edit their statements in real time sometimes before they write it out, by saying it, etc?
Is this internal dialogue not just thinking/speaking without any actual sound?
Posted on 8/1/25 at 11:24 am to stout
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Not everyone has an ongoing inner dialogue. Some people think more in images, abstract concepts, or feelings rather than in words.
I honestly don't understand how this is possible and frankly, I don't believe it. How can you think about something that is going on in you life without an inner monologue?
For example, what am I going to eat for lunch? Do these people just see a picture of a cheeseburger and a hot dog and one of the pictures goes away and that is what they eat? Seems really odd to me....
Posted on 8/1/25 at 11:28 am to stout
Only when I’m awake.
Posted on 8/1/25 at 11:35 am to stout
I wish I didn’t! What the frick is it like NOT to have one?!?!?
Posted on 8/1/25 at 11:40 am to stout
You couldn't tell? Most people are morons, that includes your boss who earned his position through nepotism. The world is ran by stupid people in smart positions, and it can be one hell of a source of frustration.
Posted on 8/1/25 at 11:47 am to Steadyhands
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So who is saying the words when reading quietly to yourself? Is that not the same internal voice? Or is that all these people do when they read?
Internal voice and inner dialogue are different things. One is talking to yourself and going through scenarios and the other is literally reading a script.
Dialogue definition: the stream of thoughts and conversations that occur within a person's mind
Are you streaming thoughts while reading word for word from something? No.
One has nothing to do with reading anything word for word. One is a streaming of independent thoughts and the other is a preformed script.
Now if you are reading that book and start having a completely separate internal conversation about what's going on in that book then that would be inner dialogue.
Example: Me reading this in my head while I'm typing it is not internal dialogue. Me talking to myself internally about how you don't understand this is internal dialogue.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 11:53 am
Posted on 8/1/25 at 11:57 am to stout
Yes and I don't understand what the people who don't have one are supposed to do in the shower
Posted on 8/1/25 at 11:57 am to OldCat55
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inner dialogue going on almost constantly
I constantly have trouble sleeping. I tell her it’s because I can’t get my mind to shut up and shut down for the night. My wife cannot understand it. She can sleep anywhere anytime. Maybe she has little to no inner dialog while I live with a chatty arsehole in my head.
samesies
Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:02 pm to OldCat55
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inner dialogue going on almost constantly
I constantly have trouble sleeping. I tell her it’s because I can’t get my mind to shut up and shut down for the night. My wife cannot understand it. She can sleep anywhere anytime. Maybe she has little to no inner dialog while I live with a chatty arsehole in my head.
Same with me. The only time it ever really stops is when I listen to certain music. I basically have to exhaust myself to actually fall asleep
Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:08 pm to stout
I talk to myself and have an inner dialogue. I also have a song in my head every second of every day, which I have been told is not necessarily normal, lol. The weird thing is when I suddenly "tune in" to two competing thoughts mid-argument. That's when I realize there's probably more going on in the brain than we'd like to think. anyone else have multiple inner dialogues at times?
anyone else have multiple inner dialogues at times?
Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:13 pm to When in Rome
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anyone else have multiple inner dialogues at times
Yep, and sometimes we all argue with each other
Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:17 pm to stout
that explains a lot about your posted topics...
Posted on 8/1/25 at 12:20 pm to TomSpanks
relatable
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:12 pm to stout
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Do you have an inner dialogue?
shite bro it takes everything I have not to let that inner sumbitch out in the truck or the shower.
I legit find myself talking to myself then the inner guys like "youre frickin nuts"
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:22 pm to stout
I 100% do........and most people wouldn't want to hear it!
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:24 pm to stout
I would guess the higher the IQ the more likely you have an inner dialogue
Dumb people dont think
Dumb people dont think
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:28 pm to stout
Yeah. My my inner dialogue never got out of junior high. 95% of the time it says "man, frick this bullshite."
He's usually right.
He's usually right.
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